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Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Classic cat and mouse moves. Adblockers will move to OS level so google cant do anything about it. Pi-hole and Network level blockers should also see a rise.

in-application DoH will bypass DNS-based adblockers. this will also expand to electron-based apps.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#53

Meanwhile me laughing in Firefox. I hope no one here is surprised by this G was more and more anti ad-blocking for years now. This is only natural conclusion after u are a de-facto browser monopoly.

Is it better to send all dns requests to a private company that harbors and protects racists and pedophiles?

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#56

Couldn't some kind of graph compression algorithm preprocess the subscribed rulesets into what fits 30k rules? I have no idea about the domain but 30k rules seems more than sufficient to map from a 150k set of uncompressed wildcard patterns.

The 30k rules limit is not final.

> we are currently planning to change the rule limit from maximum of 30k rules per extension to a global maximum of 150k rules.

(https://blog.chromium.org/2019/06/web-request-and-declarativ...)

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple/Safari adopted pretty much the same architecture on Ad Blockers. Maybe just maybe the conspiracy theories are all wrong, and there was actually a legitimate, technical reason for choosing a restricted API.

Google is an advertisement company there is nothing conspiratorial about them using their market share to force ads on people. After all whats the point of supporting chrome if it sells no adds.

The point would be

1) avoid being locked out of platforms by not controlling the default search. Apple and Microsoft could either extract a high toll, or crush search engines by controlling what search engines people see by default. On iOS, Apple does extract a toll to be the default, but MS was denied this, by Chrome beating out Windows Mobile and Edge/IE. If your company is wholly a web company, and someone else controls the key onramps to the web, you're potentially in trouble.

2) If the Web becomes a toxic wasteland (which was happening prior to Chrome when IE6 ruled), users flee more towards silo'ed platforms and apps. A healthy web is as beneficial to Google as a healthy forest is to a timber company.

It's like saying "The New York times is an advertising company, not a news company, so why would they invest in journalism schools if the point is to sell classified ads?"

And then there's just plain old interest in technology. Lots of projects at Google start from 20% engineers time, and grow to large successful projects, without any business model, they're just costs. You've got more than a thousand open source projects I bet being run by Google engineers, the majority of which exist because someone wanted to scratch an itch. Go, Angular, Tensorflow, Guava, et al, don't make money and aren't intended to.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#59

Couldn't some kind of graph compression algorithm preprocess the subscribed rulesets into what fits 30k rules? I have no idea about the domain but 30k rules seems more than sufficient to map from a 150k set of uncompressed wildcard patterns.

You seem to be assuming that the people maintaining the rules have been somewhat lazy so far. uBlock origin has the reputation of being pretty performant though, so I'd assume the engine and rules are already well optimized.

That aside, I wouldn't want to bend backwards just to comply with how Google wants the world to work. I'd rather use Firefox.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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post #32
post #19

Classic cat and mouse moves. Adblockers will move to OS level so google cant do anything about it. Pi-hole and Network level blockers should also see a rise.

Pi-hole can't filter out ads that are embedded into the page though. I think adblockers have to be a browser extension to work conprehensively.

Pi-hole can switch from magicking the DNS to being a proxy that rewrites HTML.
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