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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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hasn't Apple done the same with Safari? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/arti... curiously i haven't noticed any changes on my day to day browsing habits.

another point: isn't this what every firefox/others fan wished for? a way to balance things out in the browser market?

That another player turn evil? I don't think so.

Firefox fans want it to become a great browser. No shits given to Chrome either way.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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And once asked a clear question, the developer advocate deflects and stops answering: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/745#iss...

Did you link to the right thing? That isn't a deflection, they're asking permission to sideline the issue on uBlock's issue tracker into a discussion about Chrome/Chromium's extension policies, which incidentally they didn't get a clear answer to. > I also don't want to hijack this without the project's permission. @gorhill & contributors, do you mind having this discussion here or would you prefer if we moved it els…

Would be nice if any hn-reader mediates between the two sides.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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> Simeon Vincent, a Google Developer Advocate for Chrome Extensions One has to love and admire the use of Newspeak by big companies... How is this Mr Vincent an "advocate"? He's in charge of destroying extensions! On his Twitter bio [1] he also says he likes "helping people" and "the open web". The cognitive dissonance must be hard to bear. [1] https://twitter.com/dotproto

Even if you don't share their opinion, you have to accept that some people honestly believe that advertising is necessary for funding the open Web and keep it open for people who either can't afford tons of subscriptions or hate them for privacy reasons.

Realistically, Mr Vincent is not in charge of being an advocate for anything other than Google's corporate interests. But he is not in charge of destroying extensions either. He may well be in charge of destroying ad blockers though.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Back in the IE 6 days I was in charge of fixing my families computers, and my family's friends computers. I was dealing with a few things a week, some requiring a full re-install. This was back in the early 2000's. Eventually I snapped and started charging hourly unless people switched to Gmail and Firefox. I started getting a lot less calls since Gmail was pretty good about filtering out malicious attachments and IE was, IE. I probably got around 40 households to switch to Firefox. The people that refused to switch financed a lot of my undergrad, I charged 100 a hour. I don't like fixing computers and the goal was to make things as painful as possible for them so they would stop using IE.

Using a ad-blocker in Firefox was the #1 thing I suggested for safe computing. And don't open unexpected email attachments. This killed 95% of peoples computer woes.

So good job Google, you did it, from here on out whenever I see Chrome on families computers I will strong-arm them into switching to Firefox. I did it in 2005 and was wildly successful. I can do it again. And I think my Christmas gifts this year will be domain names and three year subscriptions to Fastmail for my immediate family.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And once asked a clear question, the developer advocate deflects and stops answering: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/745#iss...

Did you link to the right thing? That isn't a deflection, they're asking permission to sideline the issue on uBlock's issue tracker into a discussion about Chrome/Chromium's extension policies, which incidentally they didn't get a clear answer to. > I also don't want to hijack this without the project's permission. @gorhill & contributors, do you mind having this discussion here or would you prefer if we moved it els…

That's the correct link, and it is deflection. When developers tell you that the extension review process is so unfair that it feels like bullying [1], and ask you what changes do you plan to introduce to prevent this, the least you can do as a developer advocate is to briefly answer the question, then open a thread on Google Groups and invite people there to continue the discussion.

What they did was to introduce a break in the discussion. Most people subscribing to that GitHub issue, which was trending on HN [2], will not start monitoring Google Groups for any new discussion that may take place, which reduces the likelihood that there will be enough people pressuring them to give clear answers.

[1] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/745#iss...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21233041

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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> they get an IE6-sized kick in the teeth. as in: people will continue to suffer for about a decade while good alternatives readily spring up but suffer slow adoption?

Firefox is already here.

Since Firefox is already dependent on Google for a great deal of their funding, I’d say the next phase in Google’s strategy will be scaling that back.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Way ahead of you...

I moved earlier this year, it's been a good experience overall. The dev tools, which were what was holding me back, are _excellent_ and improving all the time. Only thing I'd really love to see are container-specific windows, so 'Work' tabs would open by default in my 'Work' window.

Perhaps something along the lines of this? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Full disclosure: I love this extension.

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