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Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by dang » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 8:13 AM UTC

falcolas wrote: post #120

ericol wrote: post #116

I think that's the ruling party way of things: They usually try to obliterate into particles whoever dares to oppose them. Or whoever crosses their path; or whoever they don't like for whatever reason. Just take a look at the Uyghurs situation. * edited because it seems people where taking offence on I miss using the word Chinese instead of "ruling party", that is actually what I meant.

How did their idiom go? "We'll grind you up and crush your bones." Sure, it is just an idiom, but it speaks to the thoroughness of their punishments. EDIT: This is a direct, and recent, quote from Xí Jìnpíng when discussing (with foreign leaders) how the Chinese government will treat anyone who tries to split or sew dissent in China.

Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar. It's not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by erulabs » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 5:43 PM UTC

chipperyman573 wrote: post #136

erulabs wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CVS stopped selling cigarettes and lost $2B revenue per year. After a few years, their stock is up. Is that seeking profit or doing what's right? Why does public good and public profit always have to be opposed? If being "woke" is profitable, we shouldn't discourage the good just because of potential profits. That would be like boycotting the Prius because Toyota is trying to make money off environmental concerns...

Wait, how did CSV help anything? People aren't going to stop buying cigarettes. They're addictive. People will just start paying double from a gas station.

Actually there is evidence to the contrary - Cigarette sales fell in the entire state where CVS had a significant market-share, and anti-smoking patch sales increased by 4% in the months following (src: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2017/02/20/after-cv...)

Granted, it's hard to really know anything, but I'm not entirely sure what you're saying is true. There was probably at least a few people who just said screw it and stopped buying cigarettes because they wanted to quit and needed an impulse. Since their sales actually increased in the years following, and typically cigarettes have ancillary sales, I think at -least- a few people quit due to this move.

Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by Supermancho » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 5:38 PM UTC

FDSGSG wrote: post #189

Supermancho wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also could have been a date based on last edit. There are so many possibilities, that it is suspect. Fair point. Unlike you, I don't think it's all that important a detail as its omission (mistake or not) does not detract from the analysis. Not to get too meta, but if it was intentional, why would it necessarily be, since it's so incidental to the narrative?

>Not to get too meta, but if it was intentional, why would it necessarily be, since it's so incidental to the narrative? The decision to add "possibly China" despite no evidence pointing towards that was certainly intentional and in bad faith. >Unlike you, I don't think it's all that important a detail as its omission (mistake or not) does not detract from the analysis. I think his choice to deliberately misinform is…

It isnt possibly India. There is circumstantial evidence that it could be due to Chinese influence. The blanket interpretation ignoring context is not compelling. GL

Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by FDSGSG » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 6:56 AM UTC

Supermancho wrote: post #193

FDSGSG wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Not to get too meta, but if it was intentional, why would it necessarily be, since it's so incidental to the narrative? The decision to add "possibly China" despite no evidence pointing towards that was certainly intentional and in bad faith. >Unlike you, I don't think it's all that important a detail as its omission (mistake or not) does not detract from the analysis. I think his choice to deliberately misinform is…

It isnt possibly India . There is circumstantial evidence that it could be due to Chinese influence. The blanket interpretation ignoring context is not compelling. GL

> It isnt possibly India.

It's just as much "possibly India" as it's "possibly China", there's literally zero evidence (circumstantial or not) suggesting that the post originated from either.

> could be due to Chinese influence

Completely different from the suggestion that the post was literally made in China.

I'm sure absolutely nobody doubts that this post was made due to Chinese influence, it is the claim that the post physically originated from China which I find fundamentally ridiculous.