Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015) • Hacker News Board

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by Nition » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 10:01 AM UTC

porknubbins wrote: post #166

c3534l wrote: post #136

Everyone is looking down on the users, but they're right. Usually the most correct UI design is the most obvious one, and showing off how clever you are might make the designer feel smart, but it makes the consumer feel dumb. It's one of the reasons I now live almost exclusively in the terminal. The terrible Windows redesigns are usually justified as being more intuitive to users who aren't "powerusers," but when you…

I agree, don’t look down on these people at all. I’ve been using computers my whole life but UI intuitive usability peaked at Windows XP or OSX. I often require multiple attempts to do simple tasks in Windows 10 because its so goddamn inconsistent. There are like 4 different types of search bars and who can remember which one is searching the internet, just your files (depending on if they’re indexed yet), the intern…

Not to mention Settings vs. Control Panel.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by faissaloo » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:31 AM UTC

SL61 wrote: post #147

wiseleo wrote: post #69

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Office 2007 ribbon was a terrible release. I am an Office power user and I still have to dig through well hidden “advanced” dialog boxes that were previously exposed in the UI to do things that I remember Office was capable of doing. I still hate that change.

This really shows the power of habit. Now that it's been 12 years, a whole generation has grown up with the ribbon UI. At 22, I'm one of them. Office 2003 and earlier (+ LibreOffice) feels clunky and arcane to me. 2007 was the first Office version that I seriously used, and I remember being confused as to why my parents complained about the ribbon. Sometimes I wonder if UI design matters at all beyond what users are…

I'm a zoomer and actually grew up on the regular UI because my first laptop was an iBook G3 I got second hand that came with Microsoft Office 2003

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by Narishma » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 12:07 PM UTC

Agenttin wrote: post #81

EamonnMR wrote: post #40

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In many applications (JIRA, Vim) typing without being in a text input field can cause all kinds of trouble. Heck, in browsers if you type 'backspace' you can end up going back and page and blowing away all of your precious form input. Not to mention the very real possibility that their work, the text they've typed, will be dropped on the floor. We have been trained by these dangers to avoid typing without a text prom…

This is why Google switched the 'Back' function to Alt+Left Arrow in Chrome. You could be trying to delete something out of a web form and accidentally leave the page.

That's when I switched to Firefox. I've been using the backspace key to go to the previous page or directory since the mid-90's and I never accidently left a page when trying to delete stuff.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by Narishma » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 12:07 PM UTC

cosmodisk wrote: post #120

Agenttin wrote: post #81

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This is why Google switched the 'Back' function to Alt+Left Arrow in Chrome. You could be trying to delete something out of a web form and accidentally leave the page.

I absolutely hate the new way! Used to be so much better by just clicking Backspace. Can I have it back,please?

You can do that in Firefox.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by Narishma » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 12:10 PM UTC

zerocrates wrote: post #20

gruez wrote: post #9

>Step 1: > Go to Start menu. > Type notepad and press Enter. >I tried Step 1 prior to posting here. It doesn't work! Works for me on the latest windows. Granted, there's no textbox to type into, but it appears when you start typing.

It used to be the case in older versions of Windows 10 that typing in Start would just sometimes mysteriously not do a search... that seems to have been fixed for a while now.

It's still broken on my machine. Half the time typing doesn't do anything in the start menu, and I have to close and re-open it for the search to work.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by dhruvmittal » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 1:48 PM UTC

flukus wrote: post #164

nickjj wrote: post #129

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> I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. Yep and sometimes it happens in unexpected places. I just went to the dentist the other day. The receptionist accidentally moved her task bar to be oriented vertically on the left and couldn't get it back to the horizontal bottom position. We're on very friendly terms so she a…

> The receptionist accidentally moved her task bar to be oriented vertically on the left and couldn't get it back to the horizontal bottom position. A lot of people hate the lack of features in gnome, but this is why I think KDE's style of configurability is a terrible idea. I can give my dad a gnome desktop and it just works, give him a KDE one and 3 hours later there will be six menus bar taking up half the vertica…

The thing that happens online, and especially in the linux space, is that the people who participate in the conversation are not the people who the feature-set is restricted for.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by bananasbandanas » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 2:33 PM UTC

Noumenon72 wrote: post #154

nickjj wrote: post #129

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> I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. Yep and sometimes it happens in unexpected places. I just went to the dentist the other day. The receptionist accidentally moved her task bar to be oriented vertically on the left and couldn't get it back to the horizontal bottom position. We're on very friendly terms so she a…

Yes, when I volunteered to help senior citizens with computers right click was something none of them knew they could do, nor could they remember it from week to week. Phones and web sites are much easier.

I used to give basic computer courses for seniors when I was still in highschool to earn a little money.

One would always let go of the mouse to click. He would position the mouse, lift his hand a few centimeters above the mouse button and then press down on it fast. Sometimes worked, mostly didn't because the mouse would move during the click. Now imagine him trying double clicks..

Another guy would make extremely detailed notes. I would show him some setting in a dropdown menu of Word, and he would perfectly draw these menues in his notebook. By the end, he probably hat 20 pages of beautiful notes, it was actually quite impressive.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by DKEYBOY » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 2:33 PM UTC

That's cool

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by wheelie_boy » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 3:38 PM UTC

sorenjan wrote: post #153

wheelie_boy wrote: post #39

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Yes, the story is not that notepad is in some weird place in windows 10 - it is still where most HN readers know to find it. The story is about how regular people deal with computers, as can be read in the comments. It's like that story about how one day the google search 'facebook login' took people to a forum page that let people comment using their facebook credentials, and we got to find out how many users just t…

It was a news article on ReadWriteWeb, with Facebook comments. The number of people that not only blindly clicked the first search result out of habit, but also didn't realize that they've landed on a news article on a completely different site was stunning. Truly an Internet classic, thanks for reminding me. > Ok If I have to I will comment,I love facebook so right now just want to log in if thats ok with you..lol K…

Thanks for posting this - it's remarkably hard to search for.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by carapace » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:57 PM UTC

zeppelin101 wrote: post #119

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #95

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This is easily one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read. I hope it was intended to be satirical, for your sake.

This was almost certainly a joke comment.

"Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke."