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Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by mvuijlst »

thrower123 wrote: post #44
gruez wrote: post #9

>Step 1: > Go to Start menu. > Type notepad and press Enter. >I tried Step 1 prior to posting here. It doesn't work! Works for me on the latest windows. Granted, there's no textbox to type into, but it appears when you start typing.

I would not at all be surprised if the Cortana-powered (or whatever it is) start menu search failed to find Notepad if you started typing. I don't know how they can screw something like that up so badly, but it's almost unusuable without installing Classic Shell to override the normal behavior.

This is what it looks like right now (notice the "Type here to search", can't get much more clear or explicit):

https://imgur.com/9pxTjgv

When I start typing N-O-T, this is what it does:

https://imgur.com/lxeaTSe

I have no complaints.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

ogre_magi wrote: post #37

I have a hard time considering people who aren't natural power-users of technology human. I recognize that this is a failing of mine.

How are you at woodwork? Knitting? Cooking? The piano?

Just because you have a different skillset to other people doesn't make them beneath you.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

jmull wrote: post #33
stoolpigeon wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I teach a class in a small high school about building websites. Right now I'm teaching CSS. For HTML and CSS I have the students use notepad or textedit. It's really nice to have a plain text editor that doesn't help them in any way, produces files that will work in the browser and they get to learn better I think. Maybe a small use case but one that makes me glad the tools exist.

It looks like notepad still only has one level of undo. I don't think that's reasonable for any kind of composition or editing.

This is what version control is for.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by com2kid »

dTal wrote: post #59
pradn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The windows button looks more like a flag than a window, nothing to do with starting anything!

The "Start" button was never really about starting things in the first place. After all, clicking "Start" was the first step to shutting down your computer! Perfectly intuitive... Now it doesn't even say "Start" on it, and yet they persist in calling it the "Start menu".

> After all, clicking "Start" was the first step to shutting down your computer! Perfectly intuitive...

Ah yes, because the competition's UI of having you click on an icon of a literal piece of fruit to shutdown the computer makes more sense!

You can of course push the power button and Windows will go ahead and gracefully shut down, been that way since at least XP, if not 98 on computers that supported it!

Shutting down become a rather destructive option, putting it as a first level item on the task bar would lead to accidental clicks. Putting it as a first level menu item on the most prominent UI feature of the entire OS seems like a decent alternative!

> Now it doesn't even say "Start" on it, and yet they persist in calling it the "Start menu".

Eh, and we still say we save stuff to "disk". Never mind that it probably isn't even remotely disk shaped.

If I am writing instructions for a website, should I tell people to tap or click on things?

The pantomime for talking on the telephone is to stick thumb and pinky finger out to make it look like a device that a lot of people under 20 have possibly never even seen.

Starting the shutdown process is hardly the worst English faux pas the technology industry has made!

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

carapace wrote: post #90
ogre_magi wrote: post #37

I have a hard time considering people who aren't natural power-users of technology human. I recognize that this is a failing of mine.

Brave of you to admit it, even here. I have a similar problem: I'm so goddamned intelligent that this world seems like the movie "Idiocracy" to me. ( I can't watch it: it's too painful. ) When I was younger, this advice from the Book of the Subgenius helped me a lot to get by, "Act like a dumbass and they'll treat you like an equal." Eventually, I calculated the existence of God, called out "Ollie Ollie Oxen Free", a…

This is easily one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read. I hope it was intended to be satirical, for your sake.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

#96

Post by com2kid »

wiseleo wrote: post #69
DannyB2 wrote: post #52

Fifteen years ago, one of the Microsoft fanboy arguments against both Linux and LibreOffice (then OpenOffice.org) was that neither worked exactly like Windows / Office. Then Microsoft comes along and changes everything. The Ribbon instead of the pull down menus. Now which office suite works more like what users have used for a couple decades? Windows 8 comes along with a totally different UI. So different that ordina…

Office 2007 ribbon was a terrible release. I am an Office power user and I still have to dig through well hidden “advanced” dialog boxes that were previously exposed in the UI to do things that I remember Office was capable of doing. I still hate that change.

> I still have to dig through well hidden “advanced” dialog boxes that were previously exposed in the UI to do things that I remember Office was capable of doing.

The search button in Office apps is super useful. Type in a vague suggestion of what you want and it'll pop up a button for the appropriate feature!

The ribbon is very nice for some things. It is meh for others. In Excel I'd argue it was a dramatic improvement. I remember spending forever digging through Excel menus trying to find out where some feature had been crammed in 10+ years prior before the concept of good UI even existed. The ribbon was a nice opportunity to reorganize things into more meaningful categories.

But yeah, there are still some things I can never remember quite were they are at.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by YourMatt »

wiseleo wrote: post #69
DannyB2 wrote: post #52

Fifteen years ago, one of the Microsoft fanboy arguments against both Linux and LibreOffice (then OpenOffice.org) was that neither worked exactly like Windows / Office. Then Microsoft comes along and changes everything. The Ribbon instead of the pull down menus. Now which office suite works more like what users have used for a couple decades? Windows 8 comes along with a totally different UI. So different that ordina…

Office 2007 ribbon was a terrible release. I am an Office power user and I still have to dig through well hidden “advanced” dialog boxes that were previously exposed in the UI to do things that I remember Office was capable of doing. I still hate that change.

I guess I feel a bit less stupid now for never getting comfortable with the ribbon. Anything beyond the basics that I use frequently, I'm maximizing my window then digging through every menu. I thought the old menu system was so much more intuitive. I generally embrace change for dumbing down software, but even after all these years, I still think this went in the wrong direction.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by sharkmerry »

smhenderson wrote: post #82
workthrowaway wrote: post #8

wow, just realized some of us have been using shortcuts for so long that we don't know when things get moved. also the "windows" key argument was kinda moot because most keyboard have a key that isn't a "windows" key but works similar...

we don't know when things get moved But did it get moved? The article is from 2015 and I didn't start using 10 until 2018 so I don't know where it was then but as of today I can find Notepad on the Start Menu under Windows Accessories. I feel like that's where it's always been. It's called Windows Accessories now instead of just Accessories but surely that's not enough to confuse people so much? As with most everyone…

Sure it is. People are very set in their ways of using computers. Not to mention they are on opposite ends of the Alphabet so also the list. The other link posted here about the guy who had never used it, he didnt explore, just froze when something wasnt familiar.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by xnyan »

jlarocco wrote: post #64
giancarlostoro wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've owned many a keyboard, I don't recall a single one without a Windows key.

On the other hand, I have 6 keyboards near my desk and only one has a Windows key. YMMV, I guess

I have not personally seen a PC keyboard without a windows key for 20 years, YMMV.
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