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Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by pierrec »

whoopdedo wrote: post #151
simcop2387 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of the best "feature" that windows 95 had to me as a kid. If you clicked the start menu, then hit alt + -, you'd get the standard menu for playing with a window. Minimize, Maximize, Move (greyed out), and a few others. Importantly though was that Close was an option. Clicking it would remove the start button. This lead to lots of fun playing with computers in stores at the time, closing the start butt…

I never stumbled into that one. What I do remember from Windows 95b through 7 is if the keyboard focus was on the taskbar and you pressed Alt+F4, it brought up the Shutdown/Restart/Logoff dialog. That made it possible to cleanly shutdown the computer blindly from the keyboard. Win,Esc,Alt+F4,R,Enter

You can still do pretty much the same thing. Win+D, Alt+F4.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by xtracto »

cosmodisk wrote: post #118

I started using windows about 25 years ago.It was 3.1 and now my Dell XPS runs on Win 10 and my job is technical. Despite all of this,with every additional release they somewhat manage to make it less and less intuitive and more difficult. There's no logic in so many design decisions- it's mad. Anyone,who's never used a computer doesn't stand a chance nowadays.

I still think that Win 3.xx files and program visual arrangement and grouping is better than the stupid menus we have now.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by benmorris »

Windows has become a complete UI disaster. I feel like Windows 7 was the last cohesive UI. The control panel is a great example. I'm not sure how it could possibly be more of a train wreck. Settings are in seemingly random locations split between the new and old style control panels. The deeper you get into dialogs it is like stepping back in time. Printers or network adapters you end up jumping back and forth to find the correct setting.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by flukus »

nickjj wrote: post #129
komali2 wrote: post #29

This is a pretty fun submission. I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. > This answer is not helpful. There is no start button. Because it's just a little windows icon now - easy to forget that that doesn't just make sense to some people. > Thank you, Brian- I would surely never have looked there, for anything, never…

> I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. Yep and sometimes it happens in unexpected places. I just went to the dentist the other day. The receptionist accidentally moved her task bar to be oriented vertically on the left and couldn't get it back to the horizontal bottom position. We're on very friendly terms so she a…

> The receptionist accidentally moved her task bar to be oriented vertically on the left and couldn't get it back to the horizontal bottom position.

A lot of people hate the lack of features in gnome, but this is why I think KDE's style of configurability is a terrible idea. I can give my dad a gnome desktop and it just works, give him a KDE one and 3 hours later there will be six menus bar taking up half the vertical area of the screen, and that's from a locked config. As a power user I'd prefer text configuration or to use the separate tweak-ui app anyway.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by tigershark »

Doubl wrote: post #121
komali2 wrote: post #29

This is a pretty fun submission. I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. > This answer is not helpful. There is no start button. Because it's just a little windows icon now - easy to forget that that doesn't just make sense to some people. > Thank you, Brian- I would surely never have looked there, for anything, never…

I remember being called by someone to whom we'd sent a trial installation CD, this was in the days before remote desktop software. They didn't know how to insert a CD and were defensive with it Why can't you make it easy for normal people?

Probably because they didn’t have a cd-rom unit and they were trying to push it in the 3 1/2” disk drive. If they had a real floppy disk drive (5 1/4”) they probably would have succeeded, but I seriously doubt that the installation would have gone through smoothly...

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by porknubbins »

c3534l wrote: post #136

Everyone is looking down on the users, but they're right. Usually the most correct UI design is the most obvious one, and showing off how clever you are might make the designer feel smart, but it makes the consumer feel dumb. It's one of the reasons I now live almost exclusively in the terminal. The terrible Windows redesigns are usually justified as being more intuitive to users who aren't "powerusers," but when you…

I agree, don’t look down on these people at all. I’ve been using computers my whole life but UI intuitive usability peaked at Windows XP or OSX. I often require multiple attempts to do simple tasks in Windows 10 because its so goddamn inconsistent. There are like 4 different types of search bars and who can remember which one is searching the internet, just your files (depending on if they’re indexed yet), the internet AND your local files, installed programs etc.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by dingo_bat »

Raphmedia wrote: post #17
winternett wrote: post #2

Beyond saving anything bigger than a sentence it really has no use. I almost dropped dead in shock to see they updated MS paint to Paint 3D, but then I realized that Its still intentionally limited and severely clunky to encourage you to spend money on Photoshop. :/

I doubt that Microsoft has a partnership with Adobe. They are different companies. And the point is moot since you can install Gimp instead.

It's weird but I also felt that they left out simple, key features from paint3d just because they don't want to eat into other vendors' apps. They have very advanced smart select but you can't change the background color of a sticker. At least I couldn't figure it out. Maybe they didn't leave out features but just made them a bit harder to use than necessary.

Paint3D is a really good app otherwise.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

zw123456 wrote: post #142

There were a number of things that go missing when going from win7 to 10, like the games, Chess Titans (and others) disappear and replaced by ad driven crap. Also, DVD player, in Windows 7 it was included in Win10 you have to buy one or get a "free" one that is ad driven. Hard to blame Microsoft when it seems like everything has ads stuffed into it now days.

Don't forget the calculator, which used to start within milliseconds of clicking the icon, but now takes a, sometimes not even countable on your fingers alone, number of seconds to load.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by chapium »

nickjj wrote: post #129
komali2 wrote: post #29

This is a pretty fun submission. I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. > This answer is not helpful. There is no start button. Because it's just a little windows icon now - easy to forget that that doesn't just make sense to some people. > Thank you, Brian- I would surely never have looked there, for anything, never…

> I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. Yep and sometimes it happens in unexpected places. I just went to the dentist the other day. The receptionist accidentally moved her task bar to be oriented vertically on the left and couldn't get it back to the horizontal bottom position. We're on very friendly terms so she a…

Its still a hipaa violation to give you access. She also can't be trusted with patient data if she is that incompetent with her "data tool".

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #95
carapace wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave of you to admit it, even here. I have a similar problem: I'm so goddamned intelligent that this world seems like the movie "Idiocracy" to me. ( I can't watch it: it's too painful. ) When I was younger, this advice from the Book of the Subgenius helped me a lot to get by, "Act like a dumbass and they'll treat you like an equal." Eventually, I calculated the existence of God, called out "Ollie Ollie Oxen Free", a…

This is easily one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read. I hope it was intended to be satirical, for your sake.

The last third is brilliant though (starting at the Peter Principle bit)
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