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Alright, then perhaps I am wrong (or out of date). I'd not seen nor heard of these six story high facilities, my lord.
I have seen those only heading into cities near the outskirts. I also didn't get why they weren't apartments.
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#272I can't wait for the day when I can walk to my local dump and move into a mcmansion somebody threw out because the paint was the wrong color... And I am only half joking. Go into your local thrift store and try not to gasp as you walk past $300 pair of designer jeans after $400 dress, some of them still with tags on them as they've never been worn, and most all of them in seemingly brand-new condition. It's a consume…
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Honestly, there's a company other called volante design that makes them, but they're kidna pricy.
Huh. https://www.volantedesign.us/pages/star-trek-collection So from the pre-Abrams reboot series, they only have their interpretation of the TNG-era uniform. It actually does look pretty nice. $300 is a lot for a jacket, though. Thanks anyway!
They're probably the nicest set of clothes I ever bought.
It's machine sewn.
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I think that treating fast fashion as a driver of economic growth is an example of the broken window fallacy. That is to say that I don't actually think it drives economic growth overall. It may do within a specific sector at the expense of others.
The broken window fallacy requires forcefully destroying someone’s property to get them to replace it with the same thing. This doesn’t fit that model at all.
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The money would go into something else, but it would probably be something stupid. A lot of the dumb startups we see now that are burning cash on obviously bad strategies exist because at a global financial scale, there’s not enough opportunities to invest all of the capital in. There’s obviously lots (LOTS) of work to be done that could use capital still but current financial system want to believe in a high rate of…
If people are spending it on ‘something stupid’ that’s is a sign that resources are unequally and inefficiently distributes. There are plenty of people in the world who would spend additional cash on food or fuel.
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#276Generally, it's a good article, but it lands on a sore point for me with many environmentalist articles - treating "water use" as if water disappears when used. Generally, water doesn't cease to exist - it just gets temporarily stored.
The type of water use we're talking here - saturating it with detergents, dyes, etc. -- makes it unpotable, at which point it is, best-case, going through a very expensive treatment process before it can be returned to the water cycle, which you can be certain the manufacturers are not footing the full cost of; or more likely in the places where garment manufacturers set up, is just being dumped into the environment,…
The argument also doesn't distinguish what the water is used for. Even things like cooling get written off as water "consumed". It's an appeal to emotion, and reeks of fallacy.
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#277Generally, it's a good article, but it lands on a sore point for me with many environmentalist articles - treating "water use" as if water disappears when used. Generally, water doesn't cease to exist - it just gets temporarily stored.
Whilst that’s true, it’s not how it’s experienced. Take for instance Mexico City which has been using up its groundwater at a tremendous rate; sure, the water hasn’t been destroyed in the chemical or atomic sense, but the lack of it locally is very real.
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I've pretty much exclusively switched to Merino t-shirts. Various good brans out there (Woolly Co, Smartwool, Icebreaker, etc) and most can be found in simple, versatile colors. Can wear them with almost anything, super comfortable, and the real kicker is that they can be worn a few times without needing a wash. Makes packing for travel easy, and saves time/effort/water with freq laundry. Also, as someone who runs pr…
Good tip, Thank You. Would like order custom fit T-shirts, but guess that won’t happen for a few decades as robots are far from being able to replace the hands of cheap labor. BTW How about animal welfare for producing Merino wool?
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So, I'm with you. But I'm also the person leaving the brand-new items at the thrift store. The thing is, I'm not the one buying the items usually. They're gifts. And it doesn't matter how many times I tell family not to buy this or that, they do. Christmas is crazy, I hate it for all the wasted money and excess things to deal with. I hate my in laws showing up with well made furniture that I nevertheless hate the des…
I use all the gifts I receive due to never buying myself anything, but this is definitely an issue I can see. I have spent countless Christmases telling family to donate to charities (and provided a list), buy me food (specific foodstuffs) and in one instance organized Christmas and said they could bring booze and desserts and nothing else. And they kept on with the (bulky, usually mass-produced) gifts. I don't hate…
Wine and liquor seem the obvious ones to me. There’s some pretty expensive stuff out there.
That said if you’re not a heavy drinker you might find trouble getting rid of those too :-) I’ve been given liquor a few times and it has a tendency to sit in the cabinet since I don’t drink much.
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I don't understand how you'd even go about making a $300 pair of jeans. Are they a special material that's impervious to rain but breathes like cotton? Are they extra tough so you'll never wear holes in them? Some kind of fancy dye that never fades in the wash? Are you buying clothes from Sharper Image?
There are many ways. So first there are luxury jeans. Not going to expand on these since the name explains it all. For 1000$ you do get a very premium product. Then there are e.g. all the japanese brands : Momotaro, pure blue japan, samurai, studio d'artisan, evisu, etc. Pretty much all the japanese jeans are made out of denim that has been fabricated on very old machines. Why ? They have a lower yield (which partial…
Another thing I'd like to emphasize is ethical labor practices and material sourcing. Paying workers in places like the USA or Japan is really expensive compared to getting jeans made in China or etc. That includes getting the denim as well, if you want selvedge denim I don't believe there are any selvedge mills left anywhere in the world outside of Japan or Italy.
Then add on what you mention about older machinery and slower production runs. Additional handmade details add more labor time. And quality control is generally much higher, you can line up 5 pairs of the exact same model/size and they'll line up perfectly. With the lower end of Levi's models (not Made&Crafted), you can get 5 "identical" jeans and they'll have a variation of about an inch in both length and waist. Not a huge deal to some, but it's another thing that adds more time to the production.
Even Levi's own Made in USA and Made in Japan lines are in the same price range, $150-$300 dollars.