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Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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We really need a better industry around re-use of essentially everything. Let's say I need some X. Last week I bought a base layer because it's getting cold here. I can order, or buy in a store, a brand new X trivially. I don't actually need a brand new X. A used X would do me just fine. But the difficulty in doing so is ridiculous in comparison. Cottage industry eBay stuff (that you have to order online) vs. an enti…

Thredup/Grailed/TheRealReal/Etsy/Rent the Runway are bigger companies in that business. Amazon also sells 'Warehouse deals' of returned product at a discount. There are also chains of 'buy/sell/trade' stores like Buffalo Exchange, and many local vintage and consignment stores. But there are significant challenges when you introduce all the ways that used products can deteriorate, plus the challenge of discovery and m…

Just wanted to shout out grailed! It's become my go-to for tees. Awesome brands and vintage stuff is really cheap and the sellers are generally pretty honest and good.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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I'd happily wear a DS9 or First Contact era Starfleet uniform all day. They look great! :). Regarding your serious point, I'd like to know too. I'd pay for a service that would help me find a style that looks good on me, with associated supply of quality clothes in this style. My current clothing choice pattern is "random, with a pre-filtering done by my wife".

I learned a most important trick watching America’s Next Top Model with my sister: Buy oufits, not clothes. You make the decision on what goes together and looks good at the store. You try stuff until you find what works. When it works, you buy the whole outfit. Possibly in multiples. No more decisions when getting dressed. You have predetermined outfits for whatever activity you’re doing that day. Refresh every few…

Thanks! I'll try that the next season.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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I'd happily wear a DS9 or First Contact era Starfleet uniform all day. They look great! :). Regarding your serious point, I'd like to know too. I'd pay for a service that would help me find a style that looks good on me, with associated supply of quality clothes in this style. My current clothing choice pattern is "random, with a pre-filtering done by my wife".

I learned a most important trick watching America’s Next Top Model with my sister: Buy oufits, not clothes. You make the decision on what goes together and looks good at the store. You try stuff until you find what works. When it works, you buy the whole outfit. Possibly in multiples. No more decisions when getting dressed. You have predetermined outfits for whatever activity you’re doing that day. Refresh every few…

I like a combination approach much better. Buy multiple shirts, tees, sweaters, and pants which can match with each other. Oftentimes these are less saturated earthy colours with white and black mixed in. It'll be timeless and easy to maintain—not to mention very suitable for ones who have analysis paralysis with clothes. You can't mess up!

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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All the industries are competing to be the one by which you display your worth to society. The order as I see it is: House, Car, Clothes, Phone. Jewelry goes in there somewhere. Each of these products is trying to convince you of their value, excess value really, so you will spend your money on them, yet the expense of the product isn't worth much. You need a house to protect you from the weather and other people. Af…

They look beautiful. You know, like art. Is that also of no value? That said, is art (or having a beautiful environment) worth, in this particular case, filling the oceans with junk and killing people, probably not. But let's not pretend that fashion is a worthless status-seeking endeavor but playing video games is a window to a new world here.

> They look beautiful. You know, like art. Is that also of no value?

Ecologically speaking, yes, there is zero value whatsoever in aesthetics.

And yes, I do understand I look like an insane homeless man with my unkempt hair and decade old college outfit :)

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Ecologically speaking maybe Steve Jobs/Star Trek respectively were onto something. A high quality minimal personal style that involves orders of magnitude less garment churn and waste with the added benefit of just not having to spend time on what to wear each day (insert pithy Jobs quote). But seriously if I was to explore finding a personal style that I could wear as my day to day work/life “uniform”, where to look…

I'd happily wear a DS9 or First Contact era Starfleet uniform all day. They look great! :). Regarding your serious point, I'd like to know too. I'd pay for a service that would help me find a style that looks good on me, with associated supply of quality clothes in this style. My current clothing choice pattern is "random, with a pre-filtering done by my wife".

Do those uniforms have pockets?

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Ecologically speaking maybe Steve Jobs/Star Trek respectively were onto something. A high quality minimal personal style that involves orders of magnitude less garment churn and waste with the added benefit of just not having to spend time on what to wear each day (insert pithy Jobs quote). But seriously if I was to explore finding a personal style that I could wear as my day to day work/life “uniform”, where to look…

I have a friend who only wears charcoal merino wool polos, jeans, and nice shoes.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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We really need a better industry around re-use of essentially everything. Let's say I need some X. Last week I bought a base layer because it's getting cold here. I can order, or buy in a store, a brand new X trivially. I don't actually need a brand new X. A used X would do me just fine. But the difficulty in doing so is ridiculous in comparison. Cottage industry eBay stuff (that you have to order online) vs. an enti…

Well, for one, that would vastly reduce economic growth. But aside from that, there’s not many things that fit X in the scheme of things you purchase frequently. Packaging / containers of consumed items is a big one. Fashion might be but probably not. The example I hear a lot for some reason is power tools. Yeah it would be great to share power tools because you only need them once or twice... but you only buy them o…

I think that treating fast fashion as a driver of economic growth is an example of the broken window fallacy.

That is to say that I don't actually think it drives economic growth overall. It may do within a specific sector at the expense of others.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Yes and no :) "On-demand" clothing manufacturing is practiced today, in that fashions change rapidly, and in response, retailers produce what can only be described as "shitty quality, fast". (Exacerbated by Chinese clothing manufacturers + social media - they're extremely effective at churning out extremely glossy pictures for what's about the lowest possible bar of quality) That - "fast fashion" - is what gets disca…

Now, if only bespoke shorts and tshirts became a thing. I’d happily pay a decent sum for a set of charcoal tshirts that fit me perfectly and last for a few years of daily use. Bonus points of I get to choose a fabric other than pure cotton.

Get a sewing machine and start making your own clothing. I've been trying my hand at it and I've made a few shirts and pants I wear during the weekends. They still look a bit shabby and not decent enough to wear for work thought.
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