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Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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I skimmed the comments here. Then I skimmed the article. Getting out there and developing the sites/apps you want to see will bring change. Be proactive. Be the change you want to see. The article is about a lawyer arguing for 'justice' through highly politicized language. YMMV, but I don't think "The Internet of creation" was hindered for want of lawyers, lobbyists or regulations. Similarly, sitting on the sidelines…

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Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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> Develop apps For locked down duopoly (85% and growing Google actually) walled garden, that has telemetry for every app launch, install, uninstall, access to every single push notification in plain text and can boot your "niche" app from the Play Store on a whim... Most of those newly connected to the internet are on locked down "smartphones" and not on general purpose computers anymore.

Check into progressive webapps. You can utilize homescreen app icon functionality if you add service workers. No more app/play store or walled garden. For every objection there is a can-do work around.

"webapps" don't do interesting things that websites cannot do. This person was talking about actual apps, that run on your device, doing app things.

Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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There's a lot of stuff that changed: - Past: fewer people online, mostly curious and quirky ones; now: everyone's online - Past: fewer creators; now: everyone's a creator with an FB/Instagram - Past: doing stuff for fun; now: doing stuff for $$$ (maybe not all but definitely lots). Thousands of thousands of YouTubers. We're flooded with content every day. - With so much content to consume, the desire for creation van…

> With so much content to consume, the desire for creation vanishes. Those would seem to be contradictory statements. There must be desire for creation for there to so much content created.

Not really

One thing is the desire to be there (the famous 15 minutes of popularity) another is the will to create

Most of the content is just playlists of content created elsewhere and aggregated by someone trying to make money out of it

Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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> golden age of espresso machine reviews Probably when the first search result was a hobby page maintained by an espresso machine enthusiast. Those days ended early, but I remember the pre-commercial Web and it was a very different place.

I remember using a work sponsored subscription to Compuserve back in the day, and finding it incredibly useful. Signal to noise ratio was awesome (for a pretty narrow set of subject areas). I guess there’s something to be said - in certain domains - for a real, direct cost, acting as a barrier to bots and “frivolous” use. Having to pay to publish (and to consume) separates the diamonds from the diarrhoea. However thi…

Companies have deep marketing pockets and can therefore afford to saturate walled gardens protected by payment with shit.

Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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I skimmed the comments here. Then I skimmed the article. Getting out there and developing the sites/apps you want to see will bring change. Be proactive. Be the change you want to see. The article is about a lawyer arguing for 'justice' through highly politicized language. YMMV, but I don't think "The Internet of creation" was hindered for want of lawyers, lobbyists or regulations. Similarly, sitting on the sidelines…

>Be the change you want to see. This is such important advice across so many aspects of life in general! It's easy to support a movement that's already started to to gain momentum. Something I think about still from my college days is actually from a sociology class I took as an easy requirement filler (something to do with gender studies, I forget the name). Summarized, there's rarely a reward for being the vanguard…

Usually there are only rewards for problems other people need solved. If you try to solve your own problem, there's nobody but yourself who could give you the reward.

Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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I like to fantasise about invite-only internet ‘shards’ off the main internet. Each shard would have a maximum capacity, and that capacity would be small enough that someone could create an index of every page in the shard. You could only be a member of one shard at a time. Shards wouldn’t be topic-based, they’re just deliberately small communities. Like the “mosaic of subculture” and “community of 7000” in A Pattern…

It appears there's an optimal amount of users for each internet community. Too few users and the traffic will be low to generate any interest. Too many users and the signal to noise ratio decreases and the knowledgeable people start leaving.

It seems measured elitism is the only answer.

Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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Developers who work on adtech nonsense, GDPR popups, etc, should take a hard look in the mirror. Yeah, you might make a bit of money, and yeah, maybe your colleagues, in your sick system, give you a bit of respect. One day, I think you're going to wake up and realise that you wasted your talents. Like a war veteran who thought what they were doing was right, that the ends justified the means, until suddenly one day i…

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Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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Reddit reviews are generally a pretty good source to find out what the flaws of a product are. I like to work out what the most common ways the product fails and how possible it is to fix them. I made the mistake of buying a pair of skullcandy headphones and after a month the plastic cracked and then I checked reddit and saw pretty much everyone who has this pair has had the same bit of plastic crack.

I think forums in general (not only reddit) are the best sources to find realistic info about almost any subject. Holiday resorts, cars, electronics, movies, education and more. You get a lot of subjective opinions, just like here. But all together they form a much better overview than most text or video reviews

The problem is they do not work for items that are niche. If you find anything, the chances are the review is not in depth or way too subjective and potentially from a person without experience in comparing like products.

Getting a list of hard faults is useful though not exhaustive.

There's the other extreme, relying too much on direct measurements, which can happen at highest end when we don't know which measurements are relevant in what way. (Examples would be mostly luxury - audio equipment, cars, yachts.) A specialist may be required to make sense of these and they are not easily vetted or found.

Re: The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveillance and control

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> offers much more opportunities to create and collaborate than any other time in the past. We had skype, games, ICQ, MSN, blogs, blog aggregators, rss readers, galleries, audiogalaxy, guestbooks, forums, hotline communications, IRC, video chats, joomla, wikis etc etc in the year 2003. Not much has been added. Video is perhaps the only thing that we didnt have. A big deal but it s not everything. The main change was…

There's a lot of stuff that changed: - Past: fewer people online, mostly curious and quirky ones; now: everyone's online - Past: fewer creators; now: everyone's a creator with an FB/Instagram - Past: doing stuff for fun; now: doing stuff for $$$ (maybe not all but definitely lots). Thousands of thousands of YouTubers. We're flooded with content every day. - With so much content to consume, the desire for creation van…

> I feel like facebookization killed many online communities. What used to be an independent phpbb board with a logical structure, room for customization and some tools for admins to manage it, became an FB group that is impossible to navigate and manage sensibly, with posts ordered by an algorithm, and which spams me with notifications at the least convenient times.

To be honest, I think Reddit is to blame more for that. It killed so many specialized communities and forums.

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