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I don't understand being unhappy with your ISP knowing these things, but being fine with your VPN provider knowing them.
I can use a VPN provider outside the jurisdiction of my own country.
NordVPN confirms it was hacked
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Because it's easy to change a VPN provider if you don't like their actions, but most of us are stuck with an ISP and have no control over what they do with our data?
What exactly can they be doing with your data other than selling a list of which DNS queries you make and which IP addresses you connect to? (Which the VPN provider can also do.)
My point is simply that using a VPN provider doesn't change the fact that an actor has access to your DNS queries and which IPs you connect to (and where you connect from). It just changes that actor from your ISP to a VPN provider, and most VPN providers seem a hell of a lot more shady than any ISP I've dealt with.
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Because for certain types of things, like pirating movies, it's good enough.
It seems a bit strange to me that you'd want to hide your movie pirating from your ISP but are happy for your VPN provider to know about it.
It's about choosing between the lesser of two evils.
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I am surprised why isn’t anyone suggesting Cloudflare’s Warp VPN? Genuinely curious what is the difference. I guess Clodflare one is only for mobile?
Cloudflare's Warp is not an anonymising VPN as far as I know. It is just a way to speed up Internet speeds, especially in poorly connected areas. They make no effort to hide the origin IP. So it is not in the same class as other VPN providers.
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It seems a bit strange to me that you'd want to hide your movie pirating from your ISP but are happy for your VPN provider to know about it.
Any (large?) ISP will report your torrenting and/or terminate your internet usage if you torrent anything they deem copyrightable. Both Comcast and Spectrum do this, at least. Edit, to add: No VPNs do this.
I got a nastygram from the hosting provider I used.
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ProtonVPN comes from the same people who run ProtonMail, a very well known security focused email provider.
ProtonVPN has a large history of being connected to TesoNet, a company providing among other things data mining(!). An extra cherry on top of that is the CEO of TesoNet also being the CEO of CloudVPN, which more or less controls NordVPN. Now that doesn't mean ProtonVPN is automatically compromised but I feel with stuff like no-log VPNs one should always err on the side of caution.
ProtonVPN is 100% owned by the company behind ProtonMail, which in turn is funded by the European Union, so this has been verified by the European Commission. Details here: https://bit.ly/35RDKzB
Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it's easy to change a VPN provider if you don't like their actions, but most of us are stuck with an ISP and have no control over what they do with our data?
What exactly can they be doing with your data other than selling a list of which DNS queries you make and which IP addresses you connect to? (Which the VPN provider can also do.)
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#78Lots of talk here from highly technical folks but not one person brings up the fact that these are expired keys - as in not usable? I understand that the fact that these keys were obtained is concerning but the security of nord and etc prevailed at the end of the day. The question is: were they leaked before they expired or long after?
[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20180504001844/https://8ch.net/b...
[1] https://nordvpn.com/fr/blog/official-response-datacenter-bre...
Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly can they be doing with your data other than selling a list of which DNS queries you make and which IP addresses you connect to? (Which the VPN provider can also do.)
I'm currently sitting on a plane. gogo wifi can read all my email if they so chose (and pass to a government). I'll use a VPN.