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Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Because for certain types of things, like pirating movies, it's good enough.

It seems a bit strange to me that you'd want to hide your movie pirating from your ISP but are happy for your VPN provider to know about it.

Any (large?) ISP will report your torrenting and/or terminate your internet usage if you torrent anything they deem copyrightable. Both Comcast and Spectrum do this, at least.

Edit, to add: No VPNs do this.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

#62

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I don't understand being unhappy with your ISP knowing these things, but being fine with your VPN provider knowing them.

It is much easier to change VPN provider than your ISP.

What does that have to do with them knowing what websites you visit?

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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post #59

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I don't understand being unhappy with your ISP knowing these things, but being fine with your VPN provider knowing them.

Because it's easy to change a VPN provider if you don't like their actions, but most of us are stuck with an ISP and have no control over what they do with our data?

What exactly can they be doing with your data other than selling a list of which DNS queries you make and which IP addresses you connect to? (Which the VPN provider can also do.)

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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I am guessing #1 is mot wanting your internet provider (eg. AT&T) knowing what you are doing, then Netflix, Torrents, getting better deals on tickets and such, maybe activities of questionable legality? Personally, I don't like the idea of my mobile provider profiting off knowing which applications I am using and what sites I visit.

I don't understand being unhappy with your ISP knowing these things, but being fine with your VPN provider knowing them.

I can use a VPN provider outside the jurisdiction of my own country.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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I think it is more of a matter of hiding your local ip address from other torrent users.

What's the purpose of that? Genuine question, I'm trying to understand the threat model of another torrent user seeing the IP address that is currently allocated to your router. Is this related to those letters that people sometimes get sent threatening legal action for torrenting?

quite simply evading copyright strikes or legal filings. I don't know which providers still disconnect your internet after 3 strikes. But I am guessing that's the "threat" here.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems a bit strange to me that you'd want to hide your movie pirating from your ISP but are happy for your VPN provider to know about it.

Any (large?) ISP will report your torrenting and/or terminate your internet usage if you torrent anything they deem copyrightable. Both Comcast and Spectrum do this, at least. Edit, to add: No VPNs do this.

OK, I was not aware of this. I have been known to occasionally torrent things (not just Linux distros!) and having done this semi-regularly while living in four different countries I'm yet to hear anything from any ISP about it, but I am sure there are places where it's taken more seriously.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems a bit strange to me that you'd want to hide your movie pirating from your ISP but are happy for your VPN provider to know about it.

Any (large?) ISP will report your torrenting and/or terminate your internet usage if you torrent anything they deem copyrightable. Both Comcast and Spectrum do this, at least. Edit, to add: No VPNs do this.

> No VPNs do this.

Yet.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

#68
post #59

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Because it's easy to change a VPN provider if you don't like their actions, but most of us are stuck with an ISP and have no control over what they do with our data?

What exactly can they be doing with your data other than selling a list of which DNS queries you make and which IP addresses you connect to? (Which the VPN provider can also do.)

Send me your browsing history and your location history and we can continue this conversation.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Someone is probably going to ask what other HN users recommend as an alternative. Personally, I use Private Internet Access because they're the only provider I've found with a track record of demonstrably not being able to turn your records over to someone asking for them [1]. [1] https://torrentfreak.com/private-internet-access-no-logging-...

It's the same shit. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203

The claims there have been thoroughly debunked, most recently by Mozilla and the European Commission as part of their due diligence, details here: https://bit.ly/35RDKzB

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Someone is probably going to ask what other HN users recommend as an alternative. Personally, I use Private Internet Access because they're the only provider I've found with a track record of demonstrably not being able to turn your records over to someone asking for them [1]. [1] https://torrentfreak.com/private-internet-access-no-logging-...

I have a slightly dissenting answer to these questions, in the form of an interactive Q&A website:

https://faq.dhol.es/@Soatok/cryptography/which-vpn-service-w...

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