Add Dyson to the list of failed/failing EV entrants (Faraday, Lucid, Elio, Aptera, ...) finding out the hard way that building a commercially viable car is hard regardless of what its powertrain looks like.
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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project
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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project
#152Shocked! This is akin to if a bicycle company tried to build cars, thinking their engineers can simply shift from bicycles to cars...
By some accounts, Honda Motor Company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda
I was about to mention that in 2007, many of the top professional downhill mounter bikers were riding Honda bikes at the world cup. I don't even think that the bikes weren't actually for sale to the public.
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#153I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…
The Airblade that has the slot to put your hands in is just nasty. It's like playing the game "operation", but instead you get gross germs on your supposedly clean hands. The Airblade "V" I find good enough, but still not worth all the hype.
I agree. What a gross, ineffective and shitty gimmick in the name of "design". There are some things that don't need to be reinvented, at least not in worse ways.
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Sorry, it's not false. I dried my hands using an Airblade V2 on Saturday in a services washroom. I timed it. It took 32 seconds. I did the same when using another make (when I was at PyconUK, in Cardiff city hall, feel free to check them out), and it took 30 seconds.
I don't get the times in this thread. 30 seconds is still ridiculously long. I could dry my hands with a hair dryer at minimum setting faster than that. On Dyson ones I used I could dry my hands in under 15 seconds. How are you people drying your hands?
I don't get the craze for those fastest but actually slow hand dryers I dry them on jeans pockets and it takes two seconds top
Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project
#155I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…
> the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past What did you use in the past?
I'm not the op but my wife bought a Dyson. It was a piece of crap and and suffered all the problems and more the op mentioned. Broke after a couple years and we ditched it.
I went back to using my 20 year old Dirt Devil. That thing is awesome and will suck up anything. Emptying it is slightly annoying but it's way better than the Dyson ever was.
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Stop using air dryers in bathrooms. They blow fecal matter all over the place. >Hand dryers suck in fecal bacteria and blow it all over your hands, study finds. We know fecal bacteria shoots into the air when a lidless toilet flushes — a phenomenon known, grossly, as a "toilet plume." ... Into a hand dryer and onto your clean hands, perhaps. That's what a new study suggests. https://www.businessinsider.com/bathroom-h…
Most bathrooms with hand dryers eschew the paper. So the alternative is just walking around with wet hands? Or not washing your hands at all?
In my coworking space with only hand dryers (eco friendly attempt) I just tear a couple paper towels off in the kitchen and bring them in with me.
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#157Why do companies keep thinking they can build a fucking car? Yes Tesla did it but it was a company 100% dedicated to it. Dyson has a core business already. I’m also skeptical about Apple but at least they have one of the largest treasure chests in the world of cash so they can more afford a moon shot.
You know what are the main elements of an electric car? Battery and electric motor. Dyson uses them in every product. So it's in the business more that you think. And another great skill of dyson is the design. And the CEO is one of the most famous in the world. So battery, motor and design makes a good electric car. At least in theory...
Comparing the battery & motor in a vacuum cleaner and a car is ridiculous.
Dyson is famous for tiny high RPM motors which are cool but irrelevant in a car (?), and the battery in it's latest vacuum has 7 cells - my Tesla has over 7000.
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It's great that they've improved, but I'm still confused about the hype. The best Dysons I've used are worse than my old, $400 Miele. They may be competitive now, but it took them 10 revisions to get to a point other manufacturers have been at for 20 years. They feel like a vacuum marketing company more than anything. People seem to like them because they've only ever used $100 vacuums and it's their first time with…
V6, V7 ... V10, these are all battery powered one handed vacuum cleaners that have zero setup time and few seconds to clean and put away. Is your $400 Miele in this category or are you comparing this with a wall powered vacuum that has 1000w and unlimited power at its disposal?
I have two comparisons in mind. I've used a corded, $500 Dyson, and it's really awful. So many little, annoying design decisions and just an overall lack of power for a corded vacuum.
For the cordless ones, I've used the V7 (I think), and it's worse than a comparable Bosch.
Again, I'm not saying that Dysons are bad or anything... It's just the hype seems to far outmatch the actual quality when you go to use them, and it's taken them years and years just to get competitive.
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> I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience. On multiple occasions, I've asked a friend of mine to try various products I use which I believe are excellent in many ways, only to be told that they were average or junk compared to what he uses. I believe what he uses mostly to be complete and utter junk! So I don…
>If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience. I need to clean things, I think I'm the target audience! Maybe from what you say then the V10 could swing me (certainly sounds like it has the issues that annoy me sorted out), but that's what was said about the V6 - corded replacement, easy empty, long running time, etc!
My wife always loved her dust buster and rarely, if ever, used a regular vacuum. It never held a charge, didn't have much suction, and was really difficult to empty and clean. She loves her Dyson stick vacuum. She gushes about it when it comes up. It's better at each of those things, but isn't great.
Personally, I like using the Roomba. It's not great, either, but I don't mind picking up the room and letting it run.
I'm sure there's a large market for traditional vacuums, those always seem to get most recommended. Miele canisters are always considered "the best," but reviewers know most people aren't interested just because of the price.
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#160I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…
Dyson really got the bagless vacuums to become the dominant vacuum in the USA. I think while it looks cool and relieving to see lots of stuff whirl in a transparent tornado chamber, it is far inferior to actually having a bag. You then have to dump out a dusty dirt container somewhere (hopefully not inside) and clean and sometimes replace an expensive filter. Vacuum bags are pretty cheap, and biodegradable, and much…
Plus our municipal garbage pickup explicitly requires you to bag dirty or dusty trash like this (ex: furnace filters) so I end up transferring from a bag-less vacuum to a bag, plus get dirt and dust everywhere and can never get all the crud out of the vacuum canister.
The vacuum is OK, but having to clean the canister multiple times per use is a major pain. Bagged are superior for this reason alone.