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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by afterburner »

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

The v6 is old, if your gf's had it for a while the battery's probably on its last legs, and it didn't last that long to begin with anyways.

The more recent models have plenty of battery life.

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Post by MogwaiAllOnYou »

kgraves wrote: post #16
dabeeeenster wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

So he is a terrible human being for having pro-Brexit opinions? Right... Dyson's move to Singapore had nothing to do with Brexit.

Yeah okay

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Post by la_oveja »

Frodo478 wrote: post #113
xivzgrev wrote: post #66

Why do companies keep thinking they can build a fucking car? Yes Tesla did it but it was a company 100% dedicated to it. Dyson has a core business already. I’m also skeptical about Apple but at least they have one of the largest treasure chests in the world of cash so they can more afford a moon shot.

You know what are the main elements of an electric car? Battery and electric motor. Dyson uses them in every product. So it's in the business more that you think. And another great skill of dyson is the design. And the CEO is one of the most famous in the world. So battery, motor and design makes a good electric car. At least in theory...

Not even close. A car is way much more than a motor and 4 wheels, specially in 2019. You need suspension, aerodynamics, an infotaiment system, seats, air conditioning, doors (dont understimate this one), a music playback system, a good display for the driver... And this in a cabin that can confort people from temperatures and noise from the outside. Making a decent car in incredibly difficult. + Safety features required for the current standards.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by switchbak »

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

The Airblade that has the slot to put your hands in is just nasty. It's like playing the game "operation", but instead you get gross germs on your supposedly clean hands.

The Airblade "V" I find good enough, but still not worth all the hype.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by yearofthespider »

onion2k wrote: post #92
dangrossman wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there's no charging infrastructure in place There are over 15,000 EV charging points in the UK today, which is about 2X the number of petrol stations. Ionity will have 40 350 kW fast charging stations in the UK as well.

Most petrol stations refuel between 4 and 8 cars every 5 minutes at peak usage. The same is not true of charging points yet.

It will never be true, even in a full electric world, because most electrics are charged while parked at destinations, most notably while at home.

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Post by hondo77 »

the-dude wrote: post #33
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

Bose. Bang & Olufsen.

B&O linear tracking turntables rocked. You could dance on those things and the record would keep playing as if nothing was going on.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by afandian »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #118
afandian wrote: post #85

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Maybe because they were bold enough to make the trade-off. In a competition hand dryer that doesn't really work vs one that damages your hearing... I'll keep wet hands thanks.

That damages your hearing? Surely there must be a space between. Long time ago in a McDonald's in Poland I used one that would dry your hands in 5 seconds flat. It was powerful and loud, but only as loud as a blender. Which is loud, but not painful or damaging to ears... EDIT: it looked similar to this one: https://www.qbicwashrooms.co.uk/magnum-multidry-hand-dryer-w... Except it had even lower power rating. I don't…

All I know is that Dyson hand dryers and Animal vacuum cleaners are well above my pain threshold. I think using them regularly certainly would damage my hearing. I actively avoid them.

It's down to diversity, I suppose. I'm no super-hearer (I don't really think my hearing is different to anyone else's) but obviously the engineers at Dyson didn't care about people like me.

I use another brand of 'blade' type dryers (I forget which) every day and it's fine.

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Post by nordsieck »

dfasdfasd wrote: post #114
oxplot wrote: post #94

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> I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience. On multiple occasions, I've asked a friend of mine to try various products I use which I believe are excellent in many ways, only to be told that they were average or junk compared to what he uses. I believe what he uses mostly to be complete and utter junk! So I don…

It's great that they've improved, but I'm still confused about the hype. The best Dysons I've used are worse than my old, $400 Miele. They may be competitive now, but it took them 10 revisions to get to a point other manufacturers have been at for 20 years. They feel like a vacuum marketing company more than anything. People seem to like them because they've only ever used $100 vacuums and it's their first time with…

> People seem to like them because they've only ever used $100 vacuums and it's their first time with something better, so it feels awesome in comparison.

This is my experience with Cutco knives. They're better than the absolute bottom of the barrel eversharp stuff you can get for $10, but worse than anything that actually looks like a proper kitchen knife.

I think the main reason they get any business is that most people never sharpen their kitchen knives, which is a lot less expensive than buying a set of Cutcos (I get that there's a social pressure aspect as well, but that wouldn't work nearly as well if it were more clear how garbage Cutco's products are).

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by oxplot »

dfasdfasd wrote: post #114
oxplot wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience. On multiple occasions, I've asked a friend of mine to try various products I use which I believe are excellent in many ways, only to be told that they were average or junk compared to what he uses. I believe what he uses mostly to be complete and utter junk! So I don…

It's great that they've improved, but I'm still confused about the hype. The best Dysons I've used are worse than my old, $400 Miele. They may be competitive now, but it took them 10 revisions to get to a point other manufacturers have been at for 20 years. They feel like a vacuum marketing company more than anything. People seem to like them because they've only ever used $100 vacuums and it's their first time with…

V6, V7 ... V10, these are all battery powered one handed vacuum cleaners that have zero setup time and few seconds to clean and put away. Is your $400 Miele in this category or are you comparing this with a wall powered vacuum that has 1000w and unlimited power at its disposal?

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Post by joncrane »

hourislate wrote: post #133
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

Stop using air dryers in bathrooms. They blow fecal matter all over the place. >Hand dryers suck in fecal bacteria and blow it all over your hands, study finds. We know fecal bacteria shoots into the air when a lidless toilet flushes — a phenomenon known, grossly, as a "toilet plume." ... Into a hand dryer and onto your clean hands, perhaps. That's what a new study suggests. https://www.businessinsider.com/bathroom-h…

Most bathrooms with hand dryers eschew the paper. So the alternative is just walking around with wet hands? Or not washing your hands at all?
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