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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by Retric » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:38 PM UTC

dtwest wrote: post #61

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> they take about the same time as any other dryer This is false. Before the Dyson Airblade and the really loud Xlerator ones, World Dryer was the most common hand dryer (in America at least), and they are awful. Forget about 10 seconds, you could stand there for 60 seconds and still want to use paper towels after.

I can’t stand that noise those Dyson Airblade makes, it’s just as unpleasant as the Xlerator’s and I generally avoid bathrooms with either hand dryer.

Normal models may be slower, but the only way they are taking 60 seconds if it’s broken or you never move your hands.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by agumonkey » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:39 PM UTC

samwhiteUK wrote: post #106

Svip wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back when CRT televisions were the only option, Bang & Olufsen really made televisions of that era look great. But with flatscreens, everyone can make a television look great, so they've lost their edge. My point being, I don't think the comparison is fair. B&O used to be something. I don't think Dyson ever was.

I don't know if you've used a B&O TV lately - crap

what was crap ? the whole thing, some part of the design ? or too peculiar ?

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by Frodo478 » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:39 PM UTC

xivzgrev wrote: post #66

Why do companies keep thinking they can build a fucking car? Yes Tesla did it but it was a company 100% dedicated to it. Dyson has a core business already. I’m also skeptical about Apple but at least they have one of the largest treasure chests in the world of cash so they can more afford a moon shot.

You know what are the main elements of an electric car? Battery and electric motor. Dyson uses them in every product. So it's in the business more that you think. And another great skill of dyson is the design. And the CEO is one of the most famous in the world. So battery, motor and design makes a good electric car. At least in theory...

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by dfasdfasd » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:40 PM UTC

oxplot wrote: post #94

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience. On multiple occasions, I've asked a friend of mine to try various products I use which I believe are excellent in many ways, only to be told that they were average or junk compared to what he uses. I believe what he uses mostly to be complete and utter junk! So I don…

It's great that they've improved, but I'm still confused about the hype. The best Dysons I've used are worse than my old, $400 Miele. They may be competitive now, but it took them 10 revisions to get to a point other manufacturers have been at for 20 years.

They feel like a vacuum marketing company more than anything. People seem to like them because they've only ever used $100 vacuums and it's their first time with something better, so it feels awesome in comparison.

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Post by luckydata » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:40 PM UTC

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

my dyson handheld is the best vacuum I've ever owned. The hand drier thing is clearly false, they work WAAAAAY better than the normal ones.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by agumonkey » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:40 PM UTC

Svip wrote: post #44

the-dude wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bose. Bang & Olufsen.

Back when CRT televisions were the only option, Bang & Olufsen really made televisions of that era look great. But with flatscreens, everyone can make a television look great, so they've lost their edge. My point being, I don't think the comparison is fair. B&O used to be something. I don't think Dyson ever was.

Are you sure BO are in the same class as Dyson ? BO seemed to me a very niche luxury brand, Dyson is way more mainstream. Both have different values.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:41 PM UTC

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

I love my v8, you are right it isn’t the “best” vacuum cleaner, but it is so easy to use casually that I don’t really care. I might upgrade to a v10 someday because it fixes the emptying container problem, but I can even live with that for the moment.

If someone knows of any better cordless full sized vacuum cleaners, I’d love to know about them. Right now there are lot of low quality Chinese models available, but if you have problems with the Dyson, then you definitely wouldn’t be happy with those.

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Post by TeMPOraL » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:41 PM UTC

afandian wrote: post #85

dtwest wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they take about the same time as any other dryer This is false. Before the Dyson Airblade and the really loud Xlerator ones, World Dryer was the most common hand dryer (in America at least), and they are awful. Forget about 10 seconds, you could stand there for 60 seconds and still want to use paper towels after.

Maybe because they were bold enough to make the trade-off. In a competition hand dryer that doesn't really work vs one that damages your hearing... I'll keep wet hands thanks.

That damages your hearing? Surely there must be a space between. Long time ago in a McDonald's in Poland I used one that would dry your hands in 5 seconds flat. It was powerful and loud, but only as loud as a blender. Which is loud, but not painful or damaging to ears...

EDIT: it looked similar to this one:

https://www.qbicwashrooms.co.uk/magnum-multidry-hand-dryer-w...

Except it had even lower power rating. I don't get why this states "25 seconds". Do people have hands made from sponge?

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by Aunche » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:41 PM UTC

ryanmcbride wrote: post #74

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

I never understood the appeal of the Dyson 'bladeless' desk fans. They have fan blades, they're just in the base. The novelty isn't worth the $272 (current amazon price) to me.

The real "benefit" of the bladeless fan is that it produces continuous wind rather than choppy wind. It's not exactly something you notice until you learn about it though. Then suddenly you start notice that regular fans actually are choppy.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by whywhywhywhy » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:41 PM UTC

numbers wrote: post #70

I have 4 Dyson products, besides the hair-dryer, all of the others are bad (can't say they suck b/c that's the main job of 2 of the vacuums and they can't get it done). I bought the dyson air purifier that's cold and hot, it's so bad...works at the same level as a USB fan... The vacuums are loud and look futuristic but can't clean anything properly. Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

>Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

Bought a Neato Botvac and I'm close to saying it's the single product that has improved my life the most in recent years.

I'm only cleaning a small flat but going from having to scrape dirt out of the carpet with an ineffective Dyson vacuum manually for an hour to literally pressing a button is crazy.