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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by dangrossman »

onion2k wrote: post #92
dangrossman wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there's no charging infrastructure in place There are over 15,000 EV charging points in the UK today, which is about 2X the number of petrol stations. Ionity will have 40 350 kW fast charging stations in the UK as well.

Most petrol stations refuel between 4 and 8 cars every 5 minutes at peak usage. The same is not true of charging points yet.

He didn't say the infrastructure wasn't fast enough, he said it doesn't exist. My garage is where my electric vehicle refuels, and it only needs to handle 1 car per day at peak usage. Public fast chargers don't need to handle the same peak usage as petrol stations when less than 1 in 100 cars are electric. You need some infrastructure, but you don't need to build it for 2050-level usage in 2019.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by djaychela »

oxplot wrote: post #94
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience. On multiple occasions, I've asked a friend of mine to try various products I use which I believe are excellent in many ways, only to be told that they were average or junk compared to what he uses. I believe what he uses mostly to be complete and utter junk! So I don…

>If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience.

I need to clean things, I think I'm the target audience!

Maybe from what you say then the V10 could swing me (certainly sounds like it has the issues that annoy me sorted out), but that's what was said about the V6 - corded replacement, easy empty, long running time, etc!

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by abawany »

specialp wrote: post #62
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

Dyson really got the bagless vacuums to become the dominant vacuum in the USA. I think while it looks cool and relieving to see lots of stuff whirl in a transparent tornado chamber, it is far inferior to actually having a bag. You then have to dump out a dusty dirt container somewhere (hopefully not inside) and clean and sometimes replace an expensive filter. Vacuum bags are pretty cheap, and biodegradable, and much…

I agree. I wasted a lot of time and money on bagless vacuums before realizing that I spent more time cleaning and futzing with them than with the actual vacuuming. Got a Panasonic bagged upright and it is nice; cleans well and I don't have to do anything but throw the bag away after a while.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by w-m »

numbers wrote: post #70

I have 4 Dyson products, besides the hair-dryer, all of the others are bad (can't say they suck b/c that's the main job of 2 of the vacuums and they can't get it done). I bought the dyson air purifier that's cold and hot, it's so bad...works at the same level as a USB fan... The vacuums are loud and look futuristic but can't clean anything properly. Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

I think the Dyson hand dryers work really well, the ones where you stick in your hands vertically. No other design of blowing hot air around your hands actually does the job it's supposed to do.

And even the knockoffs of the Dyson design from other companies don't work as good as the Dysons, I recently had one that was build too short so I couldn't fit the whole hand in there.

But yeah the household appliances just seem to expensive.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> Dyson hand dryers in public toilets

Just disgusting mold and bacteria traps, absolutely terrible design, just blows the water back in on itself and it collects or leaks down the side of the walls. Give me an Xlerator Dryer any day.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by samwhiteUK »

Svip wrote: post #44
the-dude wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bose. Bang & Olufsen.

Back when CRT televisions were the only option, Bang & Olufsen really made televisions of that era look great. But with flatscreens, everyone can make a television look great, so they've lost their edge. My point being, I don't think the comparison is fair. B&O used to be something. I don't think Dyson ever was.

I don't know if you've used a B&O TV lately - crap

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by simias »

djaychela wrote: post #79
dtwest wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they take about the same time as any other dryer This is false. Before the Dyson Airblade and the really loud Xlerator ones, World Dryer was the most common hand dryer (in America at least), and they are awful. Forget about 10 seconds, you could stand there for 60 seconds and still want to use paper towels after.

Sorry, it's not false. I dried my hands using an Airblade V2 on Saturday in a services washroom. I timed it. It took 32 seconds. I did the same when using another make (when I was at PyconUK, in Cardiff city hall, feel free to check them out), and it took 30 seconds.

Was the other drying one that used a similar design as Dyson's Airblade or something that predates it? Because the parent was talking about the state of the art for hand dryers before Dyson and I concur with them, it was pretty shit. On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if other vendors these days managed to clone Dyson's design and even improve on it.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by djaychela »

balfirevic wrote: post #87
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

Do you have a better battery-powered vacuum to recommend? That's an important feature and comparing them to corded vacuums is comparing different things.

Previously she had a Bosch. Forget the model number. It worked well (I thought it was a viable corded replacement), but it died after a few years (apparently a common problem), and that prompted the purchase of a Miele corded vacuum (way better, but again died, this time due to the motor taking a bath!)... then the Dyson, which was billed as a corded vacuum replacement. To me, it's a glorified dustbuster.

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Post by bryanlarsen »

numbers wrote: post #70

I have 4 Dyson products, besides the hair-dryer, all of the others are bad (can't say they suck b/c that's the main job of 2 of the vacuums and they can't get it done). I bought the dyson air purifier that's cold and hot, it's so bad...works at the same level as a USB fan... The vacuums are loud and look futuristic but can't clean anything properly. Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

Before the Internet everybody knew that Consumer Reports was the place to go for unbiased product recommendations. It still is. We used it for our vacuum cleaner; it costs 1/4 what the Dyson did and works better. But that was almost 10 years ago so such a recommendation would no longer be valid. Go to consumerreports.org.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by quasse »

mattlondon wrote: post #48
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

We had one of the V1 (or maybe V2?) vacuums and it had some obvious design floors: e.g. the exhaust blew forward out of the front, so if you were trying to suck up some fluff, the exhaust blew it away from the vacuum! You had to reverse over it to get it - madness! I remember ranting about it whenever they were held up as masters of industrial design etc - clearly people saying that did not have one :) I've not used…

I have a Dyson DC33 and can confirm that the exhaust blowing dust away from the vacuum is still a major problem.

I end up chasing bits of pet hair around the floor with it because it blows them away faster than I can vacuum them up.

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