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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Add Dyson to the list of failed/failing EV entrants (Faraday, Lucid, Elio, Aptera, ...) finding out the hard way that building a commercially viable car is hard regardless of what its powertrain looks like.

Building a commercially competitive production line is the problem no? Designing of the electric car is trivial I'd say compared to the (programming and usage of) robots and (training and hiring of) humans required to actually assemble the thing.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please elaborate

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

We have to really recenter what is considered a "terrible human being" I am not for Brexit either, but do not consider those that were in support terrible human beings. Also him moving is irrelevant, and was not related. The turning everything up to 11 is getting pretty tiresome, and really drowns out the things we should be turning up.

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I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

Bose. Bang & Olufsen.

Back when CRT televisions were the only option, Bang & Olufsen really made televisions of that era look great. But with flatscreens, everyone can make a television look great, so they've lost their edge.

My point being, I don't think the comparison is fair. B&O used to be something. I don't think Dyson ever was.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how exactly that makes him a terrible human being.

I am not British so I could be viewing it wrong, but I imagine they are calling Dyson a terrible person because he advocated for Brexit, and now that it is happening, he packed up and moved to another country and won't feel any repercussions for something he advocated for.

Any evidence he wouldn't have done the same thing if brexitbhad failed? Would Asia stop being an important market if the UK was in the EU?

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

#46

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

>I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? The UK government are pushing EVs heavily but there's no charging infrastructure in place and very few can afford the £30-40K it costs to buy them :(

> there's no charging infrastructure in place

There are over 15,000 EV charging points in the UK today, which is about 2X the number of petrol stations. Ionity will have 40 350 kW fast charging stations in the UK as well.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

#47

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

I think Dyson has tried to position itself as a Veblen good.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

#48

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

We had one of the V1 (or maybe V2?) vacuums and it had some obvious design floors: e.g. the exhaust blew forward out of the front, so if you were trying to suck up some fluff, the exhaust blew it away from the vacuum! You had to reverse over it to get it - madness!

I remember ranting about it whenever they were held up as masters of industrial design etc - clearly people saying that did not have one :)

I've not used any since, so don't know if they are any better these days or not.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

#49

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past

What did you use in the past?

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

Well, his move to Singapore apparently was to address the lack of finding engineering talent in the UK which has been a chronic issue in the UK for a long time. Simply finding talent elsewhere doesn't make Dyson a 'bad person' and this move has nothing got to do with the EU or Brexit in general.

> address the lack of finding engineering talent in the UK

Which Brexit will make a lot worse

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