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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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I'm pretty surprised to find that Dyson even had an electric car project. The business similarity between vacuums and vehicles seems pretty low to me. Is it just the electric motors and Li-ion batteries?

I think it’s more reasonable than Apple going into EVs. Unless they just work on the software and outsource the hardware.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

#32

Shocked! This is akin to if a bicycle company tried to build cars, thinking their engineers can simply shift from bicycles to cars...

The Wright Brothers had a bicycle company and then invented the airplane[1]. They didn't just make airplanes, they invented them.

I have no stake in the Dyson car, but there are other reasons that it didn't work out.

[1]: https://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/wright-brothers/onlin...

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

#33

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

Bose. Bang & Olufsen.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

#34

Shocked! This is akin to if a bicycle company tried to build cars, thinking their engineers can simply shift from bicycles to cars...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot

I'm not sure if that refutes or supports the above point... :D

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

#35

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

>I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way?

The UK government are pushing EVs heavily but there's no charging infrastructure in place and very few can afford the £30-40K it costs to buy them :(

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

Unclear how that makes him a terrible human being. Obama was against school choice, but he and all his children went to private schools. Does that hypocrisy make Obama a terrible human being?

That's only hypocrisy if you misrepresent what "school choice" is a debate about.

The argument isn't "should you be able to send your kids to private schools?", it's "should you be able to take tax revenue from the public system with you when you do?"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please elaborate

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

It's not like he's moving to the EU which I agree would possibly arguably make him seem like a hypocrit. He's moving to a non-EU country tho, so.... ?

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

Not much to get. People aren't willing to pay prices which will provide enough margin to cover costs. Electric cars are a tough business, especially for a company with no established auto supply chain or auto manufacturing experience.

Teslas are often touted as great products, yet there is no sign that they will ever turn a penny in cumulative cash profit.

NIO is going bankrupt.

Chevy bolts are touted as great products, but GM loses money on them and don't see profit potential for several more years. And they have the supply chain and experience.

There has yet to be a commercially viable plug in electric car. Not a shock that it is also true for Dyson.

Why is this being downvoted? I didnt say electric cars will never make money. I am stating the FACT that no company makes money on them YET.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

So he is a terrible human being for having pro-Brexit opinions? Right... Dyson's move to Singapore had nothing to do with Brexit.

> So he is a terrible human being for having pro-Brexit opinions?

Not solely, no. He's terrible for being a spokesman for Brexit as good for Britain and British business, and then moving his British business to Singapore: i.e. for saying one thing and then doing the opposite. Hypocrisy. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/23/james-...

He gets a lot of personal benefit from the EU, as well: https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/dyson-defends-his-1-6m-farm-subsi... https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/sir-james-dyson...

If you believe that the exodus of businesses, of which this is an example, has "nothing to do with Brexit", then I have a second-hand car plant to sell you.

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