Earlier quoted context omitted.
>- EU guarantees funding for basic infrastructure like education, legal system, security, health care and tax authorities. So tell me, how does the EU magically drum up money for all of this?
Make the immigrants/refugees actually work when they get here. Something like up to 80% are on welfare and public housing etc. You don't work or go to school, you go back.
UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Turkey is a huge trading partner to the US and not really a rival. They make the chassis to our next-gen fighter planes, for example. Why toss that aside?
Why toss that aside? I actually didn't know that the chassis for the F-35 is manufactured in Turkey. Do you have a source for this? If this is the case then it seems incredibly shortsighted to source a critical component from half-way around the world - from a country that obviously doesn't like us very much.
This said, Turkey is being removed from the supply chain. Of course, this comes at about a a half a billion in costs... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-turkey-security-f35/p...
Re: UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update
#73What EU should immediately do is to start building charter cities. Either on sparsely populated areas within EU or by making long term rental agreements outside EU. Or likely both. The rules of charter cities would be roughly as follows: - Anyone (literally anyone) would be welcome to move to charter city if they just want so. - EU guarantees funding for basic infrastructure like education, legal system, security, he…
How do you stop them? We're talking about extremely motivated people here.
> Everyone moving in is allowed and expected to work in the society.
How do you make them? What do you do if they refuse?
> EU guarantees funding for basic infrastructure like education, legal system, security, health care and tax authorities.
Like another poster said - who pays for it, and what funding gets cut in Europe to pay for it? Education budgets or maybe R&D?
Re: UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update
#74What EU should immediately do is to start building charter cities. Either on sparsely populated areas within EU or by making long term rental agreements outside EU. Or likely both. The rules of charter cities would be roughly as follows: - Anyone (literally anyone) would be welcome to move to charter city if they just want so. - EU guarantees funding for basic infrastructure like education, legal system, security, he…
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take a look at the number of Syrian refugees each country hosts, compare it to their population and GDP if you feel like it. Turkey have many problems dealing with its minorities, neighbours, even its own citizens, sure - but on this issue, maybe its time to get off your high horse, before calling any country nefarious. Are we really worse than Spain, worse than France, worse than UK? Why do they have a say in it wit…
What about buying billions of dollars of weapons from Russia? Does that qualify as grounds for expulsion from NATO?
We used to pay people handsomely to get our hands on Russian weaponry to play with.
Re: UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take a look at the number of Syrian refugees each country hosts, compare it to their population and GDP if you feel like it. Turkey have many problems dealing with its minorities, neighbours, even its own citizens, sure - but on this issue, maybe its time to get off your high horse, before calling any country nefarious. Are we really worse than Spain, worse than France, worse than UK? Why do they have a say in it wit…
What about buying billions of dollars of weapons from Russia? Does that qualify as grounds for expulsion from NATO?
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#77Nothing against helping refugees but EU and NATO should cancel any further economical and military cooperation with Turkey ASAP until they have a more sane leader in charge.
Re: UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update
#78What EU should immediately do is to start building charter cities. Either on sparsely populated areas within EU or by making long term rental agreements outside EU. Or likely both. The rules of charter cities would be roughly as follows: - Anyone (literally anyone) would be welcome to move to charter city if they just want so. - EU guarantees funding for basic infrastructure like education, legal system, security, he…
And there are tons of space for this: Sahara, Gobi, Siberia, Northern Canada, the central part of Australia, Antarctica, quite a few places in South America, etc. etc.
Economic prosperity is about institutions and their "source code". For a world afflicted with so many problems, it's just insane that we have got no way to try out blank-slate constitutions.
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I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or just extremely naive wishful thinking. Could you provide at least one example of a successful such program?
America.
Furthermore, the US currently is a lot more xenophobic and less accepting of foreigners than Europe is. I'd even go as far as say that in my experience Americans in general tend to be more racist than Europeans as well. And let's not forget USA's far from spotless historical record of treatment of minorities and other groups deemed to be 'different'.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
>- EU guarantees funding for basic infrastructure like education, legal system, security, health care and tax authorities. So tell me, how does the EU magically drum up money for all of this?
Make the immigrants/refugees actually work when they get here. Something like up to 80% are on welfare and public housing etc. You don't work or go to school, you go back.