Why is this story already off the front page? Currently 117 points in 1 hour, yet somehow behind “The Origin of the Foot Rail” with 39 points in 7 hours.
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Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store
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#172Does this app signal where there's police activity? Yes Could it be used with intent to avoid police? Yes Does it mean that it's only used with criminal intent? I don't believe so. I personally use it to avoid protests and go through my daily life. Should you now remove Safari because it allows you to access data that would potentially help with criminal intent? What about the twitter app, lot's of messages related t…
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the point when the world is legislating our privacy away? It's a pointless self-defeating marketing ploy then and nothing more.
Do you think it is ethical for a company to require it's employees to break the law?
E.g. It was ethical but illegal for some to refuse participation in the holocaust.
Law encodes what those in power want you to do. Ethics encodes what society wants you to do. The two are rarely entirely aligned.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wtf Apple
This is a company that restricts what you can and can't install on your own device and you're surprised they're okay with authoritarianism?
They are also always championing freedom and expression and the like. But they must appease China to keep that market open to phone sales sadly.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the point when the world is legislating our privacy away? It's a pointless self-defeating marketing ploy then and nothing more.
Do you think it is ethical for a company to require it's employees to break the law?
“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly, by that account, they should remove encryption on iMessage so that police can access it.
I'm actually quite surprised that iMessage has seemingly flown under the radar in authoritarian countries for this long…maybe nobody uses it there?
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#177Or is that blocked in China too? Does the great firewall affect HK as well?
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#178I think Apple's action here provides a good case for breaking up platforms. If the App Store were decoupled from the main hardware-making and hardware-selling part of Apple, then there wouldn't be a conflict of interest between providing a neutral app-selling platform and retaining access to foreign markets.