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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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I agree 100% that we should boycott and sanction, however doubt there will be enough people who will, and enough people who care. And I don't blame most for not caring, there are more things to worry about than we have time available. Maybe 1% of hearthstone players will see your comment. Similarly, there are other entities which need to be sanctioned, which you and me won't find out about as it's outside of our area…

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Then we have to boycott Hearthstone. While the current case is neither surprising nor substantially important, it is important because of principle. Blizzard is not responsible for what players say in interviews. In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. The Chinese government tries to make it a new normal that entire people can have their "feelings hurt" (what?) by mere non-insulting…

> In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. Who is "our" in this? If you mean USA, then are you sure about your claim? Eg: "Guy chooses to kneel on the field because kids were getting shot, guy gets canned.". How is that significantly different than what is happening in this case?

Retribution against the kneelers was met with a ton of protest if I recall correctly. So it's a great example of why, yes, we should protest this too.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#293

Opposing communist takeover of a free society apparently violates the following: > Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute , offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image

> offends a portion or group of the public Surely their own actions just offended "a portion or group of the public".

That's why it's only fair we as users uphold the same rules by immediately severing any ties, present and future, with Blizzard. The rules are perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#294

I've been boycotting Blizzard for a while now. They made it really easy by releasing nothing good.

They've made it crushingly, erode-absolutely-all-of-their-good-will-and-prestige-as-a-developer-despite-monopolizing-your-childhood-imagination easy.

Natural late-stage corporate life cycle, I guess. :,c But they'll keep making EZ $$$ as long as store whales keep buying mounts and pets. :D Tell them to boycott.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#295

I really don't like how this is made out as "China clamping down on Blizzard", just like it was framed when Ubisoft tried to get a lower age-rating for Rainbow Six Siege and claimed that was what China demanded for their market. Blizzard has been suspending plenty of pro players in plenty of their games for all kinds of questionable, and not so questionable reasons. And because Blizzard is a private company, offering…

> And because Blizzard is a private company, offering a service they maintain, they have the house right, they have the final say about who can partake and who can't. Except it's not a matter of some Chinese customers taking their business elsewhere. They don't have "the house right" if they are facing consequences from the Chinese government for exercising their freedom of association.

"They are a private company" is quite literally always the argument for why Facebook, Twitter, Google, Cloudflare etc should be able to ban anyone, any time for any arbitrary reason.

I get why people are upset at Blizzard's behavior, but the outcry looks a bit fake. It looks more like there's a lot of anger because it hit somebody they agree with. Had the player said something supporting China, and Blizzard banned him, there would be congratulatory comments and "their game, their rules" arguments.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans are emotional animals and many can be dominated by feelings, your answer assume they are entirely logical

They ?

Oooooh girl you did NOT just go there.

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Also fired both casters working on the event, even though they did not know what was going to be said: https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1181443974420189185

From what I read the casters prompted and encouraged him to say it, hence why they were so quick to drop down out of frame. This is just what I have read, as I do not speak the language.

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Then we have to boycott Hearthstone. While the current case is neither surprising nor substantially important, it is important because of principle. Blizzard is not responsible for what players say in interviews. In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. The Chinese government tries to make it a new normal that entire people can have their "feelings hurt" (what?) by mere non-insulting…

> In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. Who is "our" in this? If you mean USA, then are you sure about your claim? Eg: "Guy chooses to kneel on the field because kids were getting shot, guy gets canned.". How is that significantly different than what is happening in this case?

I think it’s a bit different. In this case you’re economically punishing the responsible party - not trying to raise awareness (make a scene).

I can silently stop playing Hearthstone and the effect would be felt. I’m not wasting other people’s time or breaking a contract.

In regards to the kneeling specifically, my impression was it was free publicity to the players. Honestly, looked like they were taking advantage of the situation, a way to get free press for themselves. I know I wasn’t the only person who felt this. That’s likely part of the reason they were canned.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#299

I agree 100% that we should boycott and sanction, however doubt there will be enough people who will, and enough people who care. And I don't blame most for not caring, there are more things to worry about than we have time available. Maybe 1% of hearthstone players will see your comment. Similarly, there are other entities which need to be sanctioned, which you and me won't find out about as it's outside of our area…

We could call it a Supreme Court

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#300

Massive Streisand effect incoming.

The only problem is China is too big to care. Streisand effect only affects those people where a spotlight from a small percent of the internet heavily affects them

I assume Blizzard were under pressure from China, as why else would they do this. So if this assumption is true they were cornered in they had to 'offend' someone and felt China has a longer memory than the rest of their market + China would likely ban their games whereas how many ROW people will do this?

From a pure business decision it seems to make sense as the lesser of 2 evils.

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