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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by benj111 »

neuronic wrote: post #441
benj111 wrote: post #436

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"We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit" Until someone gets fined for an ambulance being called on their behalf, because they dropped their watch on the floor...

There are countries where people don't get fined for calling an ambulance due to personal financial damage. Even though misuse happens, it's minuscule compared to the benefit of general healthcare and not having to pay thousands of dollars for getting critical help.

I'm from the UK, so no I wouldn't have to pay (I don't think?) As far as I understand free ambulances are fairly unusual though. I can see either insurance companies not wanting to pay out in these situations, or govts charging in these situations.

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Post by sooheon »

jjeaff wrote: post #472
girvo wrote: post #377

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Near 50% effectiveness is quite a bit better than the (in my opinion) 0% effectiveness of prayer

I think your opinion is wrong. Even placebo has a higher than 0% effectiveness.

I assume they're testing prayer without the recipient's knowledge, to control for placebo.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by zimpenfish »

enonevets wrote: post #465
arrrg wrote: post #463

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Why couldn’t you? I had the Apple Watch track me during my hour long bike tours, GPS and heart rate sensor on and all, without any problems and with battery left to spare at the end of the day. Seven to eight hours is probably the critical mark, but anything below that is no problem at all.

Ultramarathons (full 100 miles) usually takes between 24-30 hours according to one source (WaPo). I'm guessing you're thinking of regular 26.2 mile marathons.

To be wildly pedantic, an ultramarathon is anything over 42.2km (26.2mi). It's perfectly possible to do an ultra with an Apple Watch if you're only going 50km (even I can manage 50km within the 8h battery life.)

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Post by Lio »

wongarsu wrote: post #489
komali2 wrote: post #430

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That's not opinion - no study has shown prayer to have any effectiveness on flu symptoms.

I'm not aware of any studies showing that it has no effect either. If I had to guess I would estimate a prayer to be as effective as a placebo, but to proclaim that as fact seems a bit unscientific.

There has been quite a bit of study of intercessory prayer. i.e. for people that don't know they are being prayed for.

No affects have been found.

> In 1872, the Victorian scientist Francis Galton made the first statistical analysis of third-party prayer. He hypothesized, partly as satire, that if prayer were effective, members of the British Royal Family would live longer than average, given that thousands prayed for their well-being every Sunday, and he prayed over randomized plots of land to see whether the plants would grow any faster, and found no correlation in either case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_on_intercessory_prayer

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by kingosticks »

bartread wrote: post #496
kingosticks wrote: post #474

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To be totally fair you purchased the 5X, the biggest one on offer. A comparison with the 5S (6S now?) would be more reasonable.

Quite true. I bought it for the GPS, mapping, and battery life, but this was really a mistake. I have 8.5 inch wrists, and even though that's relatively chunky, the Garmin looks absolutely ridiculous. The thing about fitness and sleep tracking is it's only useful if you're wearing the device pretty much all the time, particularly for things like daily calorie burn. Whereas I found that there are so many contexts wher…

How does the data sync work on an Apple Watch if you don't have an iphone?

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Post by [deleted] »

mruts wrote: post #499
acqq wrote: post #488

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> I think the odds for such an event are rather low. And I guess you are writing just to the young users. There are a lot of old people living alone (in the part of the world where such watches are affordable). Falling, even in their own house, then remaining immobile and unable to call for help is a common cause of huge problems (1) (2). The specialized devices already exist too, but a lot of people don't carry them…

Well it’s clear that the watch is providing less value. If you’re already old, the value of “saving” your life isn’t that much, your probably gonna die soon anyways.

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by mruts »

cbsks wrote: post #182

Well, crap. I have been avoiding smart watches like the plague but this plus the ECG may put me over the edge. My family has a history of heart disease, I commute by bike every day, and I have a young child who I want to see grow up. One of my friends was recently killed in a motorcycle crash. A passerby found them in the morning in some bushes near the side of the road. We don't know what time the crash occurred, or…

If you spend >$400 trying to slightly mitigate every random way of death, you would be spending 10s of millions of dollars. Of course, this is why these features exist in the first place: to hijack your mind and convince you that you can live forever.

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Post by scoutt »

mruts wrote: post #499
acqq wrote: post #488

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> I think the odds for such an event are rather low. And I guess you are writing just to the young users. There are a lot of old people living alone (in the part of the world where such watches are affordable). Falling, even in their own house, then remaining immobile and unable to call for help is a common cause of huge problems (1) (2). The specialized devices already exist too, but a lot of people don't carry them…

Well it’s clear that the watch is providing less value. If you’re already old, the value of “saving” your life isn’t that much, your probably gonna die soon anyways.

Besides the fact that you cannot estimate the value of a person's life and the fact I don't want to think you're trolling, it can happen to anyone.

We have recently a case of a coworker (middle-age man) falling in his house while wife and kids were away and stayed there for hours until somehow reached his phone with a broken back.

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