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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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The watch deactivates most features and locks as soon as you take it off of your wrist. You'd need to re-enter your password to unlock it. so it is unlikely that throwing it would trigger the feature. Also from their initial demo, the fall detection uses more input than just a fast falling motion. Apparently humans fall in a specific way that the watch detects

Hopefully it is better at detecting hard falls than my series2 was at detecting the beginning of a swimming workout... I'd be driving down the road at 30 mph brushing my hair and my apple watch would ask me if I was starting a swimming workout. And I had to turn the knob to unlock to tell it no because it automatically locks you down when a swimming workout starts.

Honest question: Why are you driving down the road at 30mph brushing your hair?

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I think you are missing the point here completely and utterly. Compared to what the Apple Watch can do (as mention on the post and several comments) the garmin watch may be the real toy here.

That's hardly true, the two devices have very different purposes. I couldn't run an ultramarathon (or even a shorter trail race) in an apple watch. That's before we even start talking about features. The battery would die long before I finish. The FR945 that was released this year has far more features than the apple watch (including the emergency features). Even comparing the Apple Watch 4 to my FR935 (released in 2…

When I was a kid, my next door neighbor was an ultra-marathoner and the fittest person I'd ever met. He died suddenly one day of a heart attack while out on a run.

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A friend of mine runs a charity [1] that deals with providing AED (Automated External Defibrillator) devices to organisations. These things save lives. They can deliver shocks to the heart if necessary and can guide laypeople through giving CPR until help arrives (I think many models now actually tell you if you aren't giving strong enough compressions, for example). I would also highly recommend people go through th…

AEDs have to be found very quickly. Most networks seem to require installing an app. ️

In the UK, the emergency services can tell you where the nearest one is. You need to call them to get the unlock code anyway.

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Upcoming Samsung Galaxy Watch Active 2 has heart rate, ECG, warnings, and fall detection… but Samsung, so who knows how well any of it will work.

I don't think the Active 2 is an Android WearOS device. However I have the Active 1 and very much prefer it to WearOS.

It's not, it's a tizen device.

I preordered, but maybe it's because I've been off samsung so long I've forgotten

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A dear colleague died of a heart attack a couple months ago. His Apple Watch didn't save him. He collapsed at work. The Apple Watch is very explicit about not being a panacea, and currently only advertises detection of a specific kind of arythmia or elevated heart rate. Note that the original comment mentioned that fall detection was probably the trigger. I'm still pretty angry at the universe about my colleague's su…

Heart attacks are sudden and sometimes nothing could save you. My mother is a medical professional, and she told me the story about a doctor in her hospital: one morning he realized he was about to have a heart attack, called emergency services himself and left the door open; he was dead by the time the ambulance arrived, five to ten minutes later.

Some heart attacks kill faster than others. They are not all sudden. My friend, a doctor, had a heart attack and decided to go to the second nearest hospital because it had a better reputation than the nearest. He's still alive today.

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Heart attacks are sudden and sometimes nothing could save you. My mother is a medical professional, and she told me the story about a doctor in her hospital: one morning he realized he was about to have a heart attack, called emergency services himself and left the door open; he was dead by the time the ambulance arrived, five to ten minutes later.

Some heart attacks kill faster than others. They are not all sudden. My friend, a doctor, had a heart attack and decided to go to the second nearest hospital because it had a better reputation than the nearest. He's still alive today.

Sure, I probably should have moved “sometimes” before “sudden”.

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I can't speak for all cases but there are often unknown medical conditions involved. My aunt got the flu one year and it weakened her heart so much that she required a transplant and while she lived for a while after that, she died at 27. Please vaccinate yourselves and loved ones even for the flu.

Unfortunately, flu vaccination has not proven to be much more effective than prayer. Fortunately, it costs about the same! but still...

Near 50% effectiveness is quite a bit better than the (in my opinion) 0% effectiveness of prayer

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Apple don't get nearly enough credit for the thought and effort they put into these sorts of features. The same goes to their dedication to accessibility, which is industry-leading and honestly pretty inspiring.

Doesn't seem like outsized thought and effort given the companies size, resources, and relatively small product focus..

No, but they are one of the few _actually_ thinking about it rather than devoting their resources to something "more worthy".

It's easy to criticize a company their size, but they definitely do this very very right.

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Apple don't get nearly enough credit for the thought and effort they put into these sorts of features. The same goes to their dedication to accessibility, which is industry-leading and honestly pretty inspiring.

Doesn't seem like outsized thought and effort given the companies size, resources, and relatively small product focus..

Apple has had strong accessibility features since before they were a household name, when they were a fraction of the size of the company they are today.

Here's a post from 2006 for example, talking about accessibility in Mac OS 9: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/724948.

Here's about accessibility in Mac OS X Tiger (2005): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Tiger#Accessibility.

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Is that right? When I worked in medical instrumentation, I was always told that TnI was a leading marker.

It will take up to 8 hours for troponin levels to rise after the onset of symptoms (typically 3-4).

ER nurse here - some STEMIs I've taken care of had negative initial trop's (not all though). The 4 hr delta should of course be positive though - I don't typically check the 4 hr repeat for STEMIs though because they're long gone out of the ED to the cath lab then to CVICU.
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