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Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by Iv »

archie2 wrote: post #94
dondawest wrote: post #65

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Exactly. Will this new platform provide a safe space for the brilliant minds at /r/fatpeoplehate? /s The problem with all anti-censorship platforms is that they become hate platforms by default, because only people who get deplatformed have an incentive to move there, and it’s mostly hateful loudmouths who get deplatformed.

Personally, I think the solution is just to give users options to censor others from their perspective instead of just trying to create some utopia that is free from hatred of any kind - which is impossible. Personally, I prefer having these disgusting people out in the open. When they do something horrendous, the paper trail can be long and damning - making it much easier to convict them. These people are usually pr…

A thousand times this.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by Iv »

hrktb wrote: post #127
archie2 wrote: post #94

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Personally, I think the solution is just to give users options to censor others from their perspective instead of just trying to create some utopia that is free from hatred of any kind - which is impossible. Personally, I prefer having these disgusting people out in the open. When they do something horrendous, the paper trail can be long and damning - making it much easier to convict them. These people are usually pr…

I think self managed censoring is equally impossible. It is twitter’s model, and it puts an incredible burden on the most targeted or vulnerable users. Or to get back to reddit, the model works for people who stay focused on a very limited set of subs (default filters are horrible); I think that would be close to your idea of personally tailored censoring, but it goes too far in the other direction IMO, unexpected in…

Twitter is just terribly done and does not really present a system, that tries to provide good tools for self-censoring.

There are no way to downvote people or provide a score that can be used (even in a very optional way) by people who want to filter out the noise.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by Iv »

nine_k wrote: post #214
bitwize wrote: post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

While the joke is not lost, think of the pictures. Of animated gifs and video clips. They are a large part if Reddit. Sending every peer a copy can be wasteful and slow. It only there'd be a cluster of servers to make these media available via http...

For a long time reddit did not host any media content. It was just a link aggregator.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by Bombthecat »

attqqq wrote: post #201
inscionent wrote: post #192

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Oh no! They have a business model!

There’s always ethical ways to generate money, too. Opt in generosity is proven to be viable.. see: Wikipedia, All of Patreon, Etc

We are past ethical ways...

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by linza »

inscionent wrote: post #192
bredren wrote: post #179

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They created a mobile app and dark patterns that pushed users to use it so they could show ads.

Oh no! They have a business model!

Yes, oh no. Dark patterns are closer to fraud than to a legitimate business model I'd recommend to my friends and family. Nigerian princes selling you gold is a business model too.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by jamil7 »

hu3 wrote: post #109
mike_d wrote: post #93

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"We are a startup that inherited a 15 year old website" was one of the things that resonated when I worked there. Facebook is Alexa #5 in the US and has ~40,000 employees. Reddit is #6 and has ~500 employees. Twitter is #17 and has ~4,000 employees. (Numbers taken from quick Google searches) They have some super talented engineers that work miracles with band aids and bubble gum. Edit: Yes I understand not all employ…

Not really a miracle. Reddit software is magnitudes simpler than Facebook. Not to mention the quality is often sub-par. For example, many hate their mobile app with a passion and search field could as well just not exist when I tried.

I a lot of people use third party mobile apps because the official one is subpar. They should just acqui-hire Apollo for iOS at least.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by cwkoss »

Iv wrote: post #220
basch wrote: post #170

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I would much rather have the feed based on trust weighting of experts or people smarter than me, than the feed trying to feed me what it thinks pleases me. Metacritic vs Netflix. Aldaily vs facebook. You dont need a consistent front page for everyone, but communities of like people should get similar front pages based on what is "best" and best shouldn't be defined as universally popular, but instead popular with som…

Well what cwkoss describes would work well for you too: you would choose your experts of choice and have them as trusted users. I would too expect some users to become trust nexuses like that.

Yep! Ideally there would be some getTrustedPeers endpoint that would allow you to transitively discover interesting users 2 hops away. Add them and they become 1-hop and could get their trust list, rinse and repeat to traverse the trust network.

Because users are 'liable' for content they rebroadcast (if you repeatedly propogate downvoted content, your trust score will fall), there is a strong incentive to "moderate" the content you promote. This allows not only the OP to gain karma/trust from a post, but also adjacent peers can earn trust by reliably upcoming content that is later upvoted downstream. Hopefully this would encourage "tastemaker" users who don't create new stuff, but carefully curate what they rebroadcast. Trusting the right users allows you to rebroadcast their trusted content automatically, if you chose to configure your trust algo that way.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by rolleiflex »

bitwize wrote: post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

I made Aether for that, pretty much exactly what you're talking about. https://getaether.net

Been on Hacker News a few times too:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19161171

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18373504

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18370208

It's the need to make money that makes things go awry, so Aether doesn't need to make money. No servers mean costs are fairly negligible, except my own time spent.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by city41 »

propogandist wrote: post #115
lelibertaire wrote: post #25

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I think they just don't sell as much data as something like Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

Each outbound link on reddit is tracked, similar to how Google tracks users clicking on SERPs. This can be tied back to a user to build profile on your interests, in addition to sub-reddits you subscribe to etc. which can be valuable if combined with other demographic data about you. I dont know if they started selling this data directly. Last I spoke to ad people there, they had plans to build out their own tracking…

You can turn off outbound link tracking in the privacy section of preferences. Uncheck “allow reddit to log my outbound clicks for personalization”
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