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Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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They created a mobile app and dark patterns that pushed users to use it so they could show ads.

Oh no! They have a business model!

There’s always ethical ways to generate money, too. Opt in generosity is proven to be viable.. see: Wikipedia, All of Patreon, Etc

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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> the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. IRC is objectively terrible. If you ask a question, the only way to get the answer is if you stay logged in until someone answers you. That's like buying a phone that doesn't ring unless you're already holding it up to your ear, or an email client that deletes all your email unless you happen to be lookin…

Synchronous and asynchronous communication both have their fundamental strengths and weaknesses. In a chat room you have the possibility of a real-time back and forth. That's invaluable at times. You might have a preference for one over another, or each might be appropriate for different situations. But to claim one is objectively terrible is ridiculous and only makes you look like you haven't taken the time to under…

Slack is a superset of IRC, except for the protocol not being open.

The UX in slack is not easily replicated in IRC (for example, how does/can global search work in IRC?)

Therefore, it is actually correct to say IRC is objectively worse in those measures. The only measure that IRC beats slack is the open protocol (which, if I'm being honest, not many users care,ala most existing chat services moved to private protocols and haven't lost all their users to IRC or xmpp).

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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> including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now Someone's never done a data migration while serving 1M+ qps!

I've come close to that many, many times with zero downtime. It does take planning, more than many folks would think. But it can be done as long as you think it through.

I've never done anything close to that scale of migration, but I also can't really imagine taking an approach that feels like a huge migration.

I feel like I would try to strangle the old app (putting proxies in front and redirecting endpoints as they're rewritten) rather than swapping it out wholesale.

At that point I don't know if it really counts as a migration as much as just development.

Any thoughts on that approach? Is that what you have done, or was it a more holistic swap over?

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Citing UX in a thread about Reddit, the company with an almost universally hated redesign that moved away from a mostly text-based condensed format is... interesting.

Every user engagement metric has increased since the redesign. Unfortunate for some of us, and it doesn't preclude the metrics measuring the wrong thing, but that's reality on the ground. Same reason why Gmail is a bloated mess, because that's what the metrics show is wanted by users.

I wonder what will happen if they ever make old.reddit.com stop working?

I've been on the new design, trying to give it a chance, for over a year trying to give it a chance, and I still have to often switch to old.reddit.com to do some things.

1. The new interface still doesn't have the "other discussions" link to show you discussions of the same link in other subreddits. I think they said something like a year ago that they realized this was important and it was coming soon.

2. The new interface messes up scrolling on Edge on my Surface Pro 4 when viewing a discussion. Actually, for this one you don't have to switch to old.reddit to work around. All you have to do is hit refresh. When you refresh while on a discussion, that switches from the view that shows the discussion in an overlay on top of the thread list, to a more traditional page that just has the discussion. That page doesn't fuck with scrolling. Depending on how much I plan on reading and how long the discussions are, I may or may not get annoyed enough with this to just give up and switch to old.reddit.

(BTW, that discussion as overlay view also fucks up in-page search, because the thread list is still on the page, just hidden from your view--but not the browser's search functions--behind the discussion view, and so the search hits those hidden items).

The only thing I can find in the new interface that is actually functionally better than the old interface is the fancy pants editor. Aside from selecting tools/commands not always always working if it has to put them on the "..." pop-up, and it sometimes losing the ability to scroll the text being edited via the mouse, the new editor is a win.

If they would just put the new editor as an option on old Reddit, I think a lot of people would be happy.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Sign me up. I’d happily contribute to that as much as I can, whenever my parents aren’t using the phone line.

I've started working on a client for this decentralized reddit. I'm giving it the code name "rn".

I've cloned your inferior version and markedly improved it. And since I like not reading reddit, I decided to name it "Nothing New" or "nn"

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Modern internet is both good and bad. Depends on the site. Generalizations don't work. However if those technologies are to ever be popular than they'll need to be redesigned to keep pace with what the vast majority expect, which is in response to the OPs comment. Otherwise you can already go post on usenet right now. > "Anyways, ideally you would be able to connect to services with whichever client you want." Make i…

Is it companies, that would or should do it? Colleges and other publicly-funded entities are who did it the first time. Companies can only do what's profitable. (Or what they can convince investors will someday be profitable, but we can ignore that aberration in the long term.)

I didn't mean it that deeply, just that if people who believe these older technologies can drive modern incarnations then I would expect them to have produced products by now.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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I wonder what Reddit devops is like, I find it so strange that such a trafficked website can’t handle rollouts without what appears (on the outside) to be a full reboot. And also strange that the rollout takes so long. Makes me think they are doing something naive like running on naked vms and having one guy running a script to take them down, update os, redeploy new binary, etc. all at once. Then probably encounteri…

some details at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7TIzCAEo0M

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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The problem with that is assuming the new design is terrible for everyone. It very well could be that the majority do like it, and it's a vocal minority that complain.

The redesign is objectively terrible, adding megabytes of bloat to each page load for the sweet sweet ad revenue.

The whole point of the redesign is to remove full page loads. Why are you downloading the entire payload every time?

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Does anyone know why they tweeted this??? https://web.archive.org/web/20190918200317/https://twitter.c...

I believe it was on r/worldnews . They just tweeted it

Its still showing up on reddit.

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6l17g/though_bla...

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