Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Reddit was down for over two hours

reddit.statuspage.io

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

191–200 of 283 posts

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#191

Post by reificator »

Alex3917 wrote: post #83
sha666sum wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. I don't know if you've had a look around you lately, but the modern internet is a dumpster fire. Anyways, ideally you would be able to connect to services with whichever client you want. You could use a pretty eye candy client, or then not. With the web, however, it's an impossible feat to impleme…

> the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. IRC is objectively terrible. If you ask a question, the only way to get the answer is if you stay logged in until someone answers you. That's like buying a phone that doesn't ring unless you're already holding it up to your ear, or an email client that deletes all your email unless you happen to be lookin…

> IRC is objectively terrible. If you ask a question, the only way to get the answer is if you stay logged in until someone answers you. That's like buying a phone that doesn't ring unless you're already holding it up to your ear, or an email client that deletes all your email unless you happen to be looking at your inbox at the moment a new message arrives.

Well it's a good thing Slack and Discord don't work exactly the same way but with a nicer UI and no need for a bouncer to emulate a persistent session.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#192

Post by inscionent »

bredren wrote: post #179
opmac wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh... they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. I have never worked there, but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them. Other big players like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are literally inventing pivotal parts of the modern web technical stack. What has come out of reddit?

They created a mobile app and dark patterns that pushed users to use it so they could show ads.

Oh no! They have a business model!

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#193

Post by manigandham »

ekianjo wrote: post #120
Alex3917 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. IRC is objectively terrible. If you ask a question, the only way to get the answer is if you stay logged in until someone answers you. That's like buying a phone that doesn't ring unless you're already holding it up to your ear, or an email client that deletes all your email unless you happen to be lookin…

No. you just connect to an always on session like TheLounge and you have an IRC with the features you want. Pretty simple.

This is like the famous comment in the "Show HN: Dropbox" thread that said you could just use rsync/ftp/git instead. Meanwhile Dropbox is now worth over $8B.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#194

Post by Iv »

bitwize wrote: post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

Voting is a killer feature. It is an effective spam fighter and makes farm-troll's jobs much harder.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#195

Post by tayo42 »

buboard wrote: post #176
dymk wrote: post #12

Reddit is the only major social media/aggregator I can think of that actually has to go offline for scheduled maintenance still. I can’t imagine the kind of shitshow it must be internally. Imagine if Facebook or Twitter had to go down regularly for “maintenance”. Heads would roll.

is it a big deal? so what if fb goes down, people will just spam twitter about it. reading social media is not some crucial function, it's just a compulsion. and , like drugs, withdrawal symptoms take some time to develop

For the world no it doesn't matter. For the company, every minute down is ads not being looked at and income being generated

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#196

Post by flukus »

Alex3917 wrote: post #83
sha666sum wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. I don't know if you've had a look around you lately, but the modern internet is a dumpster fire. Anyways, ideally you would be able to connect to services with whichever client you want. You could use a pretty eye candy client, or then not. With the web, however, it's an impossible feat to impleme…

> the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. IRC is objectively terrible. If you ask a question, the only way to get the answer is if you stay logged in until someone answers you. That's like buying a phone that doesn't ring unless you're already holding it up to your ear, or an email client that deletes all your email unless you happen to be lookin…

Your use case is what mailing lists or usenet are for, of course IRC is an objectively terrible mailing list, it's also an objectively terrible toaster.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#197

Post by smacktoward »

joecool1029 wrote: post #168
smacktoward wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usenet turned into a dumpster fire even more quickly than the Web did. It was completely overrun with spam and binaries by the late '90s.

However, the spam mostly died off now. It's possible to have great convos with boomers complaining about each other finally. A small number of people came back because of the pseudoanonymous qualities. Honestly the only thing that really sucks is Google Groups users bumping 15 year old threads. Oh and binaries didn't go away, that's a feature and you just don't have to sync alt.bin.* if you want to avoid. I think it'…

The spam died off because Usenet died off. If users ever went back to Usenet, the spam would come back again behind them. There's nothing in the design of Usenet that can stop spammers from spamming.

(There wasn't anything back in the '90s in the design of email to stop spammers from spamming, either; but enough people cared enough about email that billions were spent to add that spam-proofing. Nobody cared enough about Usenet to invest a similar amount, so it's still as unprotected as it was when Monica Lewinsky was in the news.)

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#198

Post by tzs »

manigandham wrote: post #48
bitwize wrote: post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

Except UX is everything. 100s of billions in corporate value are based on nothing more than better UX. If only everyone who talks about usenet, IRC, and the rest could actually be bothered to update the experience to what modern users demand.

What do "modern users" demand that the various current GUI Usenet clients are missing?

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#200

Post by SN76477 »

realusername wrote: post #156
ryandrake wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would have been more honest of them to come out and just admit “yea, this new design is terrible but it juices our metrics and makes us more money so deal with it if you want Reddit to survive.” Also, Protip: in case anyone still doesn’t know, go to old.reddit.com for the previous, better interface. Who knows how long it will be kept alive though.

> Also, Protip: in case anyone still doesn’t know, go to old.reddit.com for the previous, better interface. Who knows how long it will be kept alive though. I'm using an extension to automatically redirect to the old one. When the old site is gone, I will probably leave Reddit, the redesign is too unusable for me.

Yep.

I like HN but I miss the diversity of conversations. /r/synthesizers /r/starwarssleaks etc.

Post reply on HN