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Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by opmac »

throwaway1777 wrote: post #149
opmac wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh... they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. I have never worked there, but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them. Other big players like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are literally inventing pivotal parts of the modern web technical stack. What has come out of reddit?

Did you miss the part where Reddit has 500 employees whereas FB has 40000? There was a point in Reddit history where there was literally 1 engineer.

What's your point? Wikipedia is Alexa rank 10 and has ~300 employees.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by inafewwords »

mike_d wrote: post #93
dymk wrote: post #12

Reddit is the only major social media/aggregator I can think of that actually has to go offline for scheduled maintenance still. I can’t imagine the kind of shitshow it must be internally. Imagine if Facebook or Twitter had to go down regularly for “maintenance”. Heads would roll.

"We are a startup that inherited a 15 year old website" was one of the things that resonated when I worked there. Facebook is Alexa #5 in the US and has ~40,000 employees. Reddit is #6 and has ~500 employees. Twitter is #17 and has ~4,000 employees. (Numbers taken from quick Google searches) They have some super talented engineers that work miracles with band aids and bubble gum. Edit: Yes I understand not all employ…

Craigslist with #8 most viewed at 70 employees.

.. Didn't fact check the numbers though.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by opmac »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #146
opmac wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh... they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. I have never worked there, but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them. Other big players like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are literally inventing pivotal parts of the modern web technical stack. What has come out of reddit?

> they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. Sigh, every. fucking. time. > I have never worked there, ... or anywhere else where high traffic is involved, right? It's always the people without any real world experience who come up with these BS claims about how everyone else is stupid and how it could be done differently. > ... but outside…

You've managed to say a lot without really saying anything.

You make plenty of baseless assumptions about my background and ambitions... but I'm not even going to try to address my professional experience (or lack thereof) because it doesn't matter, since you're just using it as a straw man to deflect criticism.

The facts are as follows: 1. Reddit is one of the highest visited websites in the world. 2. Throughout nearly their entire history, they've struggled to put together a way to make money. 3. They have notorious uptime.

Of course they have talented engineers... it would be a surprise if one of the worlds most popular websites didn't.

That doesn't change the facts that they continue to look and function like they're straight out of 2005 (does their search even work yet?), lack a semi decent mobile experience, and have contributed essentially nothing to the technical community in their entire history.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by opmac »

chubbyrabbit wrote: post #166
netsec_burn wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia is one of the Alexa top 10 globally (above Reddit, which is #20) and has 300 employees.

There's a reason he compared Reddit with Twitter and Facebook. You interact a lot with social media (commenting, liking, etc.) and also their content is much more dynamic and personalised. Wikipedia is very static in comparison.

I'm not sure how you can say Wikipedia is static, even by comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Statistics

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by buboard »

cwkoss wrote: post #98
bitwize wrote: post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

I've specced out a decentralized reddit alternative a little bit, but have too many side projects. Someone please take this and build it. Let me know if you try, would love to spectate and advise on development. The key is there shouldn't be a globally consistent front page. Sorting should be done on an individual basis. Upvotes boost signal signal to peers and downvotes squelch. By propagating content scores transit…

do you guys use reddit's frontpage? I never. I hang out in a few subs i check very often and try to be part of the communities. frontpage is just so random

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by buboard »

dymk wrote: post #12

Reddit is the only major social media/aggregator I can think of that actually has to go offline for scheduled maintenance still. I can’t imagine the kind of shitshow it must be internally. Imagine if Facebook or Twitter had to go down regularly for “maintenance”. Heads would roll.

is it a big deal? so what if fb goes down, people will just spam twitter about it. reading social media is not some crucial function, it's just a compulsion. and , like drugs, withdrawal symptoms take some time to develop

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by whamlastxmas »

marknadal wrote: post #117
bitwize wrote: post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

Exactly this already exists, but no blockchain is needed: https://notabug.io/ (beware of content: anonymous decentralized reddit!) @go1dfish runs NAB and all the code is at https://github.com/notabugio/notabug . It is built with my P2P graph protocol ( https://github.com/amark/gun ), + he has some custom implementations of it.

The post was a joke mostly, especially the blockchain part

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by triceratops »

coryrc wrote: post #17
dymk wrote: post #12

Reddit is the only major social media/aggregator I can think of that actually has to go offline for scheduled maintenance still. I can’t imagine the kind of shitshow it must be internally. Imagine if Facebook or Twitter had to go down regularly for “maintenance”. Heads would roll.

So what? 24/7 builds up to fragility like the NYC subway system or has huge costs. It's social media, not a hospital.

A subway system serves only one timezone. A website can potentially need to serve every timezone.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by bredren »

opmac wrote: post #97
mike_d wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We are a startup that inherited a 15 year old website" was one of the things that resonated when I worked there. Facebook is Alexa #5 in the US and has ~40,000 employees. Reddit is #6 and has ~500 employees. Twitter is #17 and has ~4,000 employees. (Numbers taken from quick Google searches) They have some super talented engineers that work miracles with band aids and bubble gum. Edit: Yes I understand not all employ…

Meh... they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. I have never worked there, but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them. Other big players like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are literally inventing pivotal parts of the modern web technical stack. What has come out of reddit?

They created a mobile app and dark patterns that pushed users to use it so they could show ads.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by kalleboo »

opmac wrote: post #174
chubbyrabbit wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a reason he compared Reddit with Twitter and Facebook. You interact a lot with social media (commenting, liking, etc.) and also their content is much more dynamic and personalised. Wikipedia is very static in comparison.

I'm not sure how you can say Wikipedia is static, even by comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Statistics

From your link: Wikipedia develops at a rate of over 1.8 edits per second

The statistics I can find for Reddit put it at 160 submissions per second[0]. And that's not counting comments or votes. And each vote changes the ordering of submissions and comments.

[0]https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/8aek7d/red...

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