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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by thinkmassive »

eswat wrote: post #174
RandomBacon wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it possible to have a softphone app on the iPod Touch? You would just need a wireless hotspot that the iPod would always be connected to, to use it as a phone (or maybe people can start bucking the trend of always being connected). It's the same size as the SE, except a hair thinner, and has a 3.5mm headphone jack! spec comparison: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Apple-iPhone-SE,Ap...

Sure, I know a few people that use iPod touches as their “main phone” using VoIP apps. But they’re of the paranoid hacker type and want a device that’s easy to lock-down from phoning home 24/7. It works out for them since they don’t tend to make or receive actual phone calls much. Only issue is most of these VoIP services can’t be used in a multi-factor authentication scheme since they don’t support short code SMS.

Nobody should be using SMS for MFA anyway, especially not the paranoid hacker type.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by 345218435 »

i love all the things an iphone has to offer. but on top i have the following three requirements.

1. need to reach all screen corners with one thumb: one-handed usage 2. be flat on all sides, don‘t fucking wobble: no bulges 3. i will touch it for interaction; don‘t look at me: touch id

now, looking at what apple serially delivers, these things are not impossible for them to achieve. the question is, why do they go the other way and try to sell me phones too slim to properly house the camera.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by saurik »

pdonis wrote: post #252

So let me get this straight: the author admits Apple doesn't need to do this for business reasons, but is asking them to be nice and do it for other reasons? And the option of, you know, using one's market power to give Apple an incentive to do it for business reasons isn't on the table? Does the term "self-inflicted wound" ring a bell?

The argument is that due to all of the other lock-in effects, users don't really have the choice of switching to another smaller device (which, fwiw, doesn't even really exist anymore either: the world seems to have decided high quality small phones are a bad idea).

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by phs318u »

jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

The point has been made before that the problem is most people don't have large hands (especially the quite small people in the rest of the world) - and they have already had to get used to using two hands, so for them - the size increases are a non-change. It's only us giant-handed people that are now hitting this change. But we're not most consumers.

DISCLOSURE: I'm a long-fingered former SE user who recently upgraded to an XR.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Marsymars »

ken wrote: post #270
oplav wrote: post #56

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Do you use any other Apple products? I feel the same way about paying a premium for a phone I don't like, but iMessage is what is keeping me from switching (back) to Android. My personal computer is a 2014 MacBook. My work computer is a MacBook. Being able to message freely from my laptop to others on iMessage is a really nice feature.

I can't figure out what's great about iMessage. Is it just what I get when I send a text message to someone who also has an iPhone, and it uses a blue bubble to show it's encrypted? In practice, I have maybe one friend who regularly uses text messaging. Everybody in my neck of the woods uses Hangouts, Messenger, Threema, etc.

Well native iMessage is a lot nicer to use than a pile of web/electron apps. I say this as an Android user whose 8GB MacBook struggles under the weight of a handful of messaging apps.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Marsymars »

shantly wrote: post #179
wlesieutre wrote: post #11

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FaceID works a lot better with gloves on than TouchID did.

My TouchID drops to like a 10% success rate if the humidity's much different from it was on whatever day I set it up. Or if I've done any work with my hands in the last week or so and roughed my fingers up a bit. Or if I've looked at water in the last hour. I've configured it several times and it never gets much better. I end up using the code most of the time. Probably need to just disable it, it fails so consistent…

> Or if I've done any work with my hands in the last week or so and roughed my fingers up a bit.

I register two fingers, one with "normal" hands, and one after a session of rock climbing.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Marsymars »

robocat wrote: post #213
RandomBacon wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it possible to have a softphone app on the iPod Touch? You would just need a wireless hotspot that the iPod would always be connected to, to use it as a phone (or maybe people can start bucking the trend of always being connected). It's the same size as the SE, except a hair thinner, and has a 3.5mm headphone jack! spec comparison: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Apple-iPhone-SE,Ap...

Get an Apple watch with cellular, and tether an iPod touch to it?

Can't pair any non-iPhone iOS devices to Apple Watch.
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