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Bring Back the SE

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Re: Bring Back the SE

#252
So let me get this straight: the author admits Apple doesn't need to do this for business reasons, but is asking them to be nice and do it for other reasons? And the option of, you know, using one's market power to give Apple an incentive to do it for business reasons isn't on the table?

Does the term "self-inflicted wound" ring a bell?

Re: Bring Back the SE

#253
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, hopefully! Nobody is asking for paper thin phones, and this needless obsession with THIN is we have to thank for gems such as: - the phone no longer sitting flat - the headphone port being removed - the phone being impossible to get a good grip on without a bulky case - "nearly one day of battery" life being the bar for "what good battery life is" Who trades a couple of millimeters of thickness in exchange for…

It is a common misconception that Apple is obsessed with thinness when it comes to iPhones. Since the iPhone 6, each iteration has been thicker: http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/apple-iphone-product-...

iPhone 6 (Plus) was when it was realized that people care a lot about the camera. Folks bought iPhone 6 Plus phones they didn’t want for stabilization.

Apple prioritized camera over thickness at that point. Battery is lower on the list and is mostly addressed by CPU improvements.

IMO it’s frustrating that they are so conservative with a mature product. We waited over a decade for basic waterproofing. Apple has an incredible supply chain, but Samsung can deliver better/more diverse form factors. Example: ruggedish phones.

Apple’s focus is both amazing and frustrating to me. They had and lost an opportunity to break Microsoft clients in business.

Re: Bring Back the SE

#254

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

Yeah. This is the day that I miss Jobs and his opinionatedness.

Re: Bring Back the SE

#255
I believe in voting with my dollars.

I will be waiting for a smaller size phone that doesn't compromise on hardware and features, and if Apple doesn't make it within a year or so, then I'll start to look at alternatives. People talk about how Tim Cook is a logistics master, so it shouldn't be difficult to do a smaller sized phone. I don't want a cheaper, lower quality phone, I just want an iPhone XS that's smaller.

Re: Bring Back the SE

#256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2013/02/how-do-users-r... People with smaller hands, regardless of gender, often use two hands. Once you're used to using two hands, there's no reason to have a smaller screen.

They use two hands because you give them a phone that's hard to use with one hand. And using two hands is not always an option.

I’m on the beach right now, comfortably reading and replying to this thread with one hand on my SE. The other is shielding my eyes from the sunset.

Re: Bring Back the SE

#258

> It is unlikely that any of my friends and family members are going to move to Android, where there is a wide variety of hardware form factors to choose from. There's hardly any good iPhone SE-sized Android phones anymore. I have a Sony Xperia Somethingsomething Compact and it's the only option I'm aware of, and it's not really that great. I've never had an iPhone but if they release a new SE I'd probably jump ship…

I had to replace my Xperia X Compact (2016) recently. The latest Compacts weight much more and cost like flagship phones, which they are. However I'm not interested into something weighting so much and costing some 600 Euro. I compromised on a Samsung A40 which is the smallest modern Android phone I was able to find. It costs 200 Euros and weights 140 g. Compared to the Compact is a much better phone. Bezel less OLED screen and still the 3.5 audio jack. It's as wide as the Compact and thinner. Unfortunately the A40 is too long and I can feel the difference when I put it in the pockets on the legs of hiking trousers: it starts hindering movements. The shorter and thicker Compact didn't. And the extra 2 cm of length aren't really worth much. I would cut them off and still have a better phone than the Compact.

Re: Bring Back the SE

#259

> It is unlikely that any of my friends and family members are going to move to Android, where there is a wide variety of hardware form factors to choose from. There's hardly any good iPhone SE-sized Android phones anymore. I have a Sony Xperia Somethingsomething Compact and it's the only option I'm aware of, and it's not really that great. I've never had an iPhone but if they release a new SE I'd probably jump ship…

I bought an iPhone SE earlier this year because I couldn't find an Android phone in that size (I'm an Android developer). I generally prefer Android as an OS but the size and form factor is excellent.

I'm hoping there's a decent Android phone in an SE size by the time my SE dies.

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