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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by bscphil »

paulddraper wrote: post #82
dijit wrote: post #40

Every year I wait on bated breath at the release of a similarly compact phone to the SE. I even recently bought a new one right before they removed them from the store, so I have 2 year apple care+ for it to tide me over. Ordinarily I would vote with my wallet, but there are no compact Android phones either. Ironically I still own a Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it bein…

Android is equally disappointing. There has never been a successor to the Nexus 4.

The best phone form factor ever made. I loved my N4.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by irae »

The bad news is: There is no Android alternative either. Phones with 4" and good processing powers and reasonable cameras just don't exist. Really dire situation. I guess I have one more year with iOS 13 before I'll need to get used to use an outdated iOS.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by eq_sd_ »

geerlingguy wrote: post #122
theshrike79 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had the 8+ and now XS in my front left pocket just fine. Maybe buy some looser pants? =)

I can fit the larger phones (though still prefer the SE size), but my wife has demonstrated how even the SE is often spilling out of whatever pocket or other way-smaller device holding pocket is on her clothing items. Unless fashion trends change, or everyone who uses purses goes for some giant bag (and likes keeping their phones in a bag, not on their person), there is a large number of people who could use a smalle…

Here is a great article on the size of women's and men's pockets and phones: https://pudding.cool/2018/08/pockets/

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by eswat »

RandomBacon wrote: post #98
js2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They still make the iPod touch. It even has an A10 in it. The 128 GB model is $299. The 128 GB iPhone 8 is $499 with an A11. They don't have to sell a new iPhone SE for less for $499. I'd pay that for it. Small is a premium. But would selling it at $399 really kill their margins? Edit: the iPhone 8 64GB refurb pricing is now $379. That's a pretty good deal: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/FQ6K2LL/A/Refurbished-iPh…

Is it possible to have a softphone app on the iPod Touch? You would just need a wireless hotspot that the iPod would always be connected to, to use it as a phone (or maybe people can start bucking the trend of always being connected). It's the same size as the SE, except a hair thinner, and has a 3.5mm headphone jack! spec comparison: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Apple-iPhone-SE,Ap...

Sure, I know a few people that use iPod touches as their “main phone” using VoIP apps. But they’re of the paranoid hacker type and want a device that’s easy to lock-down from phoning home 24/7. It works out for them since they don’t tend to make or receive actual phone calls much.

Only issue is most of these VoIP services can’t be used in a multi-factor authentication scheme since they don’t support short code SMS.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by nico_h »

my SE 64GB is nearing the end of it’s useful life (battery is old, dust on the front and main camera, broken back glass ). I’m looking into either a second hand 128GB SE or getting an out of warranty repair. The small size and one handedness are just essential features in so many situations.

i really wish they made an updated SE with a full screen front and updated cameras. And the real black aluminium back. from the iphone 5.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Dylan16807 »

rchaud wrote: post #31
saralily wrote: post #10

It's coming in the spring.

It's rumoured to have a 4.7-inch screen, so probably not much smaller than the iPhone 6,7 and 8, even if they are able to reduce the top bezels somewhat.

Based on the math in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20932102

a 4.7 inch screen with similar bezels to an X would be about .1 inches smaller than an 5S/SE.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by bobajeff »

aeharding wrote: post #160

My next phone after the SE will hopefully be a standalone Apple Watch (Cellular) with some AirPods. Once watchOS grows independent enough from the iPhone...

That's pretty much my thoughts on the matter.

At some point some company is going to come out with a really good stand-alone smartwatch. And that will take the place of small phones and probably even regular sized phones.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by jblake »

Love my SE. Replaced the battery for $15 off Amazon yesterday. With replacements available on ebay for under $100, I don't have to baby my phone or use a case.

If apple offered a modern SE, I'd probably buy it, but I'm also quite happy with my SE as-is. If the SE wasn't getting iOS 13, I don't know what I'd do... thankfully it is.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by shantly »

wlesieutre wrote: post #11
temuze wrote: post #9

Mostly, I hope they bring TouchID back, preferably via a scanner on the back of the phone. Outside of providing a bigger screen, FaceID is strictly worse: - When I pulled my old iPhone out of my pocket, I would have my finger on the scanner and it would be unlocked before it reached my face. With FaceID on the iPhone X, I have to wait a few seconds. - If you wake up and you're squinting as you look at your phone, Fac…

FaceID works a lot better with gloves on than TouchID did.

My TouchID drops to like a 10% success rate if the humidity's much different from it was on whatever day I set it up. Or if I've done any work with my hands in the last week or so and roughed my fingers up a bit. Or if I've looked at water in the last hour. I've configured it several times and it never gets much better. I end up using the code most of the time. Probably need to just disable it, it fails so consistently that it'd be faster just to use the code every time.

That's on a 7+, though, and Macbook fingerprint sensors seem a little better (more like 50% success rate) so maybe it's just because it's an early version of the hardware.

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