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Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
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Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
#162No closed source mesh networking can be secure. However good user experience it has. They are no different than using WhatsApp. Indeed in that respect at least Signal is better. I am not sure why protestors did not adopt the open source serval mesh project apk and ios app. [1] In Hong Kong given the density of building it's bit hard to have a line of sight, so it will still be hard to build a local network. But it's…
You can use PGP encrypted messages over any network to be secure.
Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think China getting that information from Apple is sort of a second-order concern at this point. In a more stable situation, yeah, you don't want the police to have a reason to knock on your door. When you're gearing up to go protest in public and the cops are dropping tear gas on everybody, those sorts of lists are less important. Not saying that it doesn't matter, but there is no such thing as absolute security,…
Keep in mind that Apple's iCloud services in China are not actually provided by Apple. They are provided by Cloud Big Data Industrial Development Co., Ltd., and allows Apple to, "continue to improve iCloud services in China mainland and comply with Chinese regulations". [0] This service even has different terms of service, than the standard iCloud offering (though I haven't done a diff to see what's changed). The eff…
Hong Kong residents are not impacted by this.
Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keep in mind that Apple's iCloud services in China are not actually provided by Apple. They are provided by Cloud Big Data Industrial Development Co., Ltd., and allows Apple to, "continue to improve iCloud services in China mainland and comply with Chinese regulations". [0] This service even has different terms of service, than the standard iCloud offering (though I haven't done a diff to see what's changed). The eff…
Anybody have some details on this? I always wondered how this is handled for Chinese going abroad or Foreigners traveling in China without sending the keys back and forth. Or do Chinese iCloud accounts still use the Chinese servers even when abroad while the western ones get to go through the great firewall for western iCloud?
Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keep in mind that Apple's iCloud services in China are not actually provided by Apple. They are provided by Cloud Big Data Industrial Development Co., Ltd., and allows Apple to, "continue to improve iCloud services in China mainland and comply with Chinese regulations". [0] This service even has different terms of service, than the standard iCloud offering (though I haven't done a diff to see what's changed). The eff…
Anybody have some details on this? I always wondered how this is handled for Chinese going abroad or Foreigners traveling in China without sending the keys back and forth. Or do Chinese iCloud accounts still use the Chinese servers even when abroad while the western ones get to go through the great firewall for western iCloud?
> If you are not a Chinese citizen residing in China mainland, you can edit the country or region setting of your Apple ID to reflect your current country or region and continue using iCloud under Apple's current terms and conditions.
Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
#166No closed source mesh networking can be secure. However good user experience it has. They are no different than using WhatsApp. Indeed in that respect at least Signal is better. I am not sure why protestors did not adopt the open source serval mesh project apk and ios app. [1] In Hong Kong given the density of building it's bit hard to have a line of sight, so it will still be hard to build a local network. But it's…
You can use PGP encrypted messages over any network to be secure.
Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does anyone know the reason(s) why Apple makes it impractical to sideload?
Side loading is a threat to Apples control over all iOS and similar AppStore devices. If I didn’t want to comply with the very far-reaching requirements for e g in-app stores, I could just ask my users to side load my app. If for example Audible did this, it’d be a real threat.
Which is why you can't buy books in the kindle ios app[0] among others.
[0]https://www.techspot.com/article/1597-how-to-buy-kindle-book...
Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
#168No closed source mesh networking can be secure. However good user experience it has. They are no different than using WhatsApp. Indeed in that respect at least Signal is better. I am not sure why protestors did not adopt the open source serval mesh project apk and ios app. [1] In Hong Kong given the density of building it's bit hard to have a line of sight, so it will still be hard to build a local network. But it's…
Something works, it helps their protests admist disruption of telecom. Appreciate that please. Not everything needs to be technical. More we speak of tech, more morale we loose.
Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
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This still creates a detectable pattern. If the legit phone goes off while the burner is on that's a pattern. If the legit phone goes off and (travel time / distance) elapses before burner appears (travel time / distance) away from the last legit ping that's a pattern. If the legit phone and burner phone hit the same towers at the same time more than 3 times that's a pattern. If the burner phone spends most of the ti…
If you think it's bad now, wait until 5G rolls out allowing live tracking of people to within meters.
Re: Hong Kong protestors using Bridgefy's Bluetooth-based mesh network messaging app
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because Serval isn't in the App Store yet?
I believe that's the point. You need to download the APK or whatever IOS provides for developer packages. This means less tracking from the vendor (Google, Apple)