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Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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> The average mobile browser user pays as much as $23 a month in data charges to download ads and trackers — that’s $276 a year. Is that true?

People can and will cherry-pick the stats.

A more meaningful stat would have been the percentage of ad code (JS, images, god forbid flash files, etc)

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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How come more websites do not accept brave payments? If I had a website, what is the process required to begin accepting them? Edit: typo

You have to be a verified publisher. There was a whole story about Tom Scott (English YouTuber) rightfully tweeting about it.

Brave changed themselves after to not collect donations for unverified publishers.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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You are supremely lost. If you carry the analogy, you're saying the billboards destroying my view through Colorado are somehow paying for my roads. Well, actually taxes pay for my roads. And no, viewing ad's on Brave does not somehow make my internet better or faster. It just clutters the experience. The only thing that will opt into this crap are the selenium bots I write to farm some Brave cash or whatever you're c…

> If you carry the analogy, you're saying the billboards destroying my view through Colorado are somehow paying for my roads. Well, actually taxes pay for my roads. You are entirely misinterpreting the Brave engineer's good faith argument. The argument wasn't that billboards somehow pay for roads. You introduced that analogy, and the reply showed where your anology falls apart. The argument was that unlike roads , mo…

Let's break down what the the rep from Brave said... I don't think I misinterpreted anything.

> Your beautiful drive through Colorado requires quite a bit of maintenance and financial support.

Roads cost money.

> Somebody has to pay for that.

Someone has to pay for the roads.

> With Brave, Advertisers can pay for it (without getting hold of your data) by way of users. ... Brave aims to sustain the roads that grant you access to that scenery.

Ad's (billboards) can pay for a great browser experience (the roads)...

So, therefore I said: Billboards don't pay for roads, taxes do. I get that the analogy isn't 1:1. However, stating that is an easy way to demonstrate that Brave doesn't have a market. Just like I don't need billboards to pay for my roads, I don't need ad's to pay for my browser experience. Firefox is open-source, and adblock exists. Come off it.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Users in general. We can't track Brave users because it blocks Google Analytics.

sure you can. easily done with basic server side tracking by parsing the User-Agent header. you should be logging this any way in some kind of access log.

Their User-Agent is indistinguishable from Chrome, on purpose so I don't think you can just rely on that

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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We signed up for Brave's setup at PortableApps.com after a few users asked about it. They hold your last 90 days in escrow, so you can find out how successful it is once you sign up. We were looking at around 10 cents a day for a bit under a million monthly users for that timeframe over the summer. And we can't even access it since Brave only works with one crypto provider and they aren't licensed in New York. The pr…

I've been using Brave for almost a year and haven't been shown a single ad, I think it's only been a few months since the ads were enabled though. I wonder if the same happens for others.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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> 10 cents a day for a bit under a million monthly users To clarify, do you mean a million monthly Brave users? Or just a million monthly users in general? 10 cents a day might actually be a lot if you were only getting one or two Brave users a month.

Users in general. We can't track Brave users because it blocks Google Analytics.

Not being able to track users is literally the main feature of Brave, so I'm not surprised it's difficult. It's as it should be.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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This is kind of silly. When you copy open source code, it doesn't give any magic access to the people who wrote it. If there is anything wrong with it, it has to appear on the source code somewhere. The question you should be asking is whether you trust Brave to vet the source code and remove anything that seems like a problem.

It's not silly. Google 100% controls upstream chromium, and they can afford to make decisions about it in a vacuum.

So what? Brave does not have to incorporate every decision from upstream.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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What?

Brave was started after Eich was pressured out of the Mozilla foundation for financially supporting anti-gay initiatives. He called his company 'Brave' because he felt he was being brave for using his money to attack a minority group.

Had to look it up, it looks like he put $1000 towards California's Proposition 8 (to un-legalize same-sex marriage). In March 2014, he was named as Mozilla's new CEO, but resigned 9 days later under fire. https://www.cnet.com/news/mystery-startup-from-ex-mozilla-ce...

Can't find anything on the origin of the company name, I assume that's just hyperbole.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Whatever Mozilla's focus is when you load Firefox you experience the following: 1. On ESR first time it loads two pages load including https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/60.8.0/firstrun/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/ You then find first party cookies are set by Google Analytics _ga GA1.2.1671101194.1567114471 _gat_UA-36116321-1 1 _gid GA1.2.377831647.1567114471 In the EU this would breach the ePri…

You're right. Do you have a better solution? I'm not asking to be glib, I actually want a browser that does a better job of protecting my privacy.

I have a collective solution but not an individual solution: pressure Mozilla to change.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Which happened after Brave launched.

Okay, but it's not like Brave couldn't have seen that coming. It doesn't take a genius to see that a browser run by one of the world's largest advertisers is going to prioritize advertisers over users.

I’m just speaking from personal experience as someone who defended Chromium for quite a long time and finally hitting my peak. I’m sure I’m not alone.
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