So finally Brave doesn't just take the money people thought they gave Wikipedia?
Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher
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#82I had never read the Brave ad model before. They want to display ads while respecting user privacy, which is nice from a user point of view, but do advertisers actually want that rather than being able to target 35-40 years old in Ohio that are using shaving products twice a week ?
Brave developer here. Great question! Brave Ads are entirely opt-in, and work via on-device machine-learning. The machine-learning bits study your browsing habits in a private, non-leaky manner. Once a day, your device downloads an aggregate catalog of many ad options to be studied locally. If/when an ad is found that fits your interests (as inferred by your browsing habits), the ad is displayed as an OS notification…
How do you prevent ad fraud while respecting privacy?
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would assume that once a lot of advertisers are on the platform the ad catalogue can quickly grow to the size of GBs, which would be unfeasible to hold on smartphones.
The catalog contains edge-cached URLs and metadata for the ads. The size remains small, as we're not compressing down images, rich media, video or other assets in the catalog. (I work at Brave, and am on the team bringing the ad platform to market)
Could you clarify a tiny bit? I’m not sure I follow. If you are not including images or video in the ads, does that mean that you are downloading them at view time from somewhere, or that the ads have no images or video?
Also, what are edge cached urls?
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#84Does brave still suck up money from people even when the site owner hasn't set up brave payments?
No, but they still haven't shown remorse for claiming those payments were held in escrow when in fact Brave held the payments, and planned to take them after 90 days. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18736743
Your link doesn’t match your text. You say they “planned” to take funds but when I followed the link, I found a TOS that allowed them to take a portion of the funds, or redistribute all of the funds back to end users without taking any, and a post from a Brave employee saying they never took any for themselves
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#85I really like what Brave is doing. I wish it was built on Firefox instead of Chromium. I just don't see myself leaving Firefox without major upheaval in the browser space.
(Brave employee here) Curious: what are some of the shortfalls you see in Chromium? Before I joined Brave, the desktop browser was originally using Gecko (from Firefox). Ultimately, there were some problems and the decision was made to move to Chromium. On iOS, Brave is forked from Firefox though You can check out more detail on Reddit where folks asked why FF was not used (which has links to more detailed info): htt…
>Curious: what are some of the shortfalls you see in Chromium?
That it's a Google-controlled project. Seriously, that's it. I have no reason to believe Google has my best interest at heart.
Don't turn that around and say "Oh, you think Mozilla is looking out for you?" because I don't. I just trust Google less.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
(Brave employee here) The Rewards feature of Brave is what allows users to pay creators and also opt-into ads. This feature is completely optional though. It's off by default and users never get bothered about it Brave is actually a proper fork of the Chromium code-base and builds on top of it, which is a lot more involved than a theme. The work that's been done is fairly significant if you wanted to give it a try. E…
Would you please tell your CEO to stop the shilling campaign on 4chan? this thing has become so smelly that you should stop it once and for all.
What are you talking about? I am not on 4chan, Brave does nothing there.
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#87How come more websites do not accept brave payments? If I had a website, what is the process required to begin accepting them?
Edit: typo
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's simply false. They don't do ad replacement. You have to volunteer yourself to receive ads and they come in like system notifications, not anywhere near the content.
thats a bit of semantics. if they block someone elses ads, and display their own ads they are still replacing what a persons attention is drawn to, even if it is an overlay instead of injected into the page. (its literally called an attention token, diverting attention to a new target.) should they be allowed to create an ad driven piece of software? absolutely? but if that software is an ad blocking browser, its cre…
(Brave employee here)
We block 3rd party ads and tracking, that collect user data, often without their knowledge or consent. Brave Ads are disabled by default, to ensure that no one sees ads that is not interested in viewing ads. This provides a benefit to advertisers as well, as they currently dump a lot of money into a dumpster fire, and are basically tasked with measuring how many of the pixels appeared on the screen for a certain amount of time. Brands don't know if people that viewed the ad were interested in advertising. People get shotgunned with ads. We're approaching this differently.
We've introduced advertising that is private by default, with a new approach to measuring and accounting for ad event confirmations through our ad confirmation protocol.
We have some information regarding the confirmation protocol here, for those interested. https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Security-and-pri...
Aside from providing advertising that's private by default, our ad platform includes people in the process, by rewarding them for their attention (70% of the rev share for the ads viewed). People can then contribute those tokens to publishers and creators (like Wikipedia), or hold the tokens. In the future, people will be able to redeem tokens for gift cards, premium content, etc.
We'll be introducing additional ad units in the future for publishers, with a cleaner deal and better rev share than they currently receive (publishers will receive 70% of the revenue, people will receive 15%, Brave will receive 15%).
If we were just replacing publisher ads with other ads from the existing ad ecosystem, I'd understand and agree with the sentiment. That said, we're bringing new methods for ad delivery, accounting and matching to the market, all designed to function without leaking your information from your device. Hope this helps.
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#89We signed up for Brave's setup at PortableApps.com after a few users asked about it. They hold your last 90 days in escrow, so you can find out how successful it is once you sign up. We were looking at around 10 cents a day for a bit under a million monthly users for that timeframe over the summer. And we can't even access it since Brave only works with one crypto provider and they aren't licensed in New York. The pr…
Uphold is working hard to acquire the bitlicense for New York. They shared on Twitter earlier this month that they hope to have this resolved soon. It's worth noting that Creators also have a referral program whereby $5 in BAT can be earned for each user brought to the Brave platform. brave.com/refer Thank you for your incredible patience and participation. We hope to see positive developments on the bitlicense front…
Are there any plans to get rid of uphold on the publisher side and allow external wallets? It was a huge turn off to me when I signed up.
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#90Wikipedia hates cryptocurrencies they constantly delete their articles even Bitcoin was denied an article at one point. I feel Wikipedia is violating their own conflict of interest policies with this.