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Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by randiantech »

sedatk wrote: post #209
randiantech wrote: post #207

Since Brave is usually roasted around here, I just want to say thanks to the devs. I'm a Brave user and the experience is fantastic. Two things: I was a Chrome user for many years, so switching to Brave was not traumatic at all (same user experience, plugin's compatibility) and also ad blockers work as expected. I've never pay attention to the included ad solution. Im not interested on it. Im strictly speaking as an…

Did they fix the issue of pocketing the money on behalf of content creators who are not registered to Brave?

I have no idea, as I mentioned im not familiar with that, and I've never signed up on the ad platform / solution / whatever offered during the installation. I just decline to join that program during the setup, and never ever popped up again. If I could hide the red triangle on the right of the nav bar, i'd do that as well.

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Post by sedatk »

javagram wrote: post #84
pushcx wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but they still haven't shown remorse for claiming those payments were held in escrow when in fact Brave held the payments, and planned to take them after 90 days. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18736743

Your link doesn’t match your text. You say they “planned” to take funds but when I followed the link, I found a TOS that allowed them to take a portion of the funds, or redistribute all of the funds back to end users without taking any, and a post from a Brave employee saying they never took any for themselves

So the money I thought that I had donated to a content creator goes to some random people instead and that's somehow okay?

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by sedatk »

jonathansampson wrote: post #44
snek wrote: post #33

Does brave still suck up money from people even when the site owner hasn't set up brave payments?

Not at all. If you have contributions/tips earmarked for a property that is not verified, those rest in your wallet for up to 90 days. If, during that period, the property becomes verified, the tokens are transferred. Otherwise, after the 90-day period, the tokens are released back within the wallet to be used elsewhere.

Are the tokens released back to the original payer or a pool account?

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Post by buboard »

bilucy wrote: post #32

BAT token is tradable on exchanges, and price floats and is unstable. Donation receivers need to worry about exchange rates risk - https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/basic-attention-token How about USD or USD stable currencies for this?

u can always exchange it for USD/USDT or sth , probably easy with a script even

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Post by CrendKing »

jonathansampson wrote: post #63
seren wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for chiming in. So from the FAQ : https://brave.com/faq/#all-ads-blocked > Each ad request is anonymous, and exposes only a small subset of the user’s preferences and intent signals to prevent “fingerprinting” the user by a possibly unique set of tags. It means that advertisers still get some feedback on the "intent signals" of the users that have seen their ads ? So it is private in the sense you cannot be un…

Not quite, I think that FAQ item needs to be updated. The model works like this: The user opts-in to Brave Rewards/Ads. This kicks off a machine-learning model that begins to study the user's habits and interests. On a daily basis, the user downloads a regional ad catalog (as to other Brave users in their region). This catalog contains numerous ad options, which your device studies for relevance. If/when your device…

> At this time, 70% of the ad revenue is deposited into your in-situ wallet.

Brave needs to know when and which ad has been shown to the user, to deposit that ad's revenue right? That means whenever an ad is shown "locally", it still needs to contact Brave server with user's identity behind of some encryption. Brave then shows the proof of ads being presented to users to ad provider to get revenue.

Sure, the user's interests are studied locally (and inefficiently because it runs on user's computer), but the result feeds back to Brave. How does that improve privacy?

At some point, Brave may either leak the data accidentally or decide to sell the data, because the data, which capture each uniquely identifiable user's interests, is valuable.

Or am I misunderstanding something here?

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Post by aflag »

jonathansampson wrote: post #190
vesche wrote: post #180

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I would never opt-in to ads even if there was some upside. That's like asking if I'd like to see billboards on a beautiful drive through Colorado and in return you'll throw some change in my center console. I'll just take the beautiful drive and you can keep the cash. > The machine-learning bits study your browsing habits in a private, non-leaky manner. I think everyone's been around the internet long enough to know…

Your beautiful drive through Colorado requires quite a bit of maintenance and financial support. Somebody has to pay for that. With Brave, Advertisers can pay for it (without getting hold of your data) by way of users. Alternatively, you may choose to "fund the roads" yourself by depositing your own tokens into Brave's wallet—that too is possible. Brave aims to sustain the roads that grant you access to that scenery.…

How's that better than just installing adblock?

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Post by colordrops »

sedatk wrote: post #209
randiantech wrote: post #207

Since Brave is usually roasted around here, I just want to say thanks to the devs. I'm a Brave user and the experience is fantastic. Two things: I was a Chrome user for many years, so switching to Brave was not traumatic at all (same user experience, plugin's compatibility) and also ad blockers work as expected. I've never pay attention to the included ad solution. Im not interested on it. Im strictly speaking as an…

Did they fix the issue of pocketing the money on behalf of content creators who are not registered to Brave?

Do you have evidence of this? Or is this just an unfounded accusation?

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by pastastickers »

kerkeslager wrote: post #208
marichards wrote: post #204

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Whatever Mozilla's focus is when you load Firefox you experience the following: 1. On ESR first time it loads two pages load including https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/60.8.0/firstrun/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/ You then find first party cookies are set by Google Analytics _ga GA1.2.1671101194.1567114471 _gat_UA-36116321-1 1 _gid GA1.2.377831647.1567114471 In the EU this would breach the ePri…

You're right. Do you have a better solution? I'm not asking to be glib, I actually want a browser that does a better job of protecting my privacy.

They might need an Apple-like "courage" moment, and replace Google with DuckDuckGo or Startpage as their default search service.

Come to think of it, I would expect the same move from Apple as well, on Safari.

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