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Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by seren »

jonathansampson wrote: post #13
seren wrote: post #3

I had never read the Brave ad model before. They want to display ads while respecting user privacy, which is nice from a user point of view, but do advertisers actually want that rather than being able to target 35-40 years old in Ohio that are using shaving products twice a week ?

Brave developer here. Great question! Brave Ads are entirely opt-in, and work via on-device machine-learning. The machine-learning bits study your browsing habits in a private, non-leaky manner. Once a day, your device downloads an aggregate catalog of many ad options to be studied locally. If/when an ad is found that fits your interests (as inferred by your browsing habits), the ad is displayed as an OS notification…

Thanks for chiming in.

So from the FAQ : https://brave.com/faq/#all-ads-blocked

> Each ad request is anonymous, and exposes only a small subset of the user’s preferences and intent signals to prevent “fingerprinting” the user by a possibly unique set of tags.

It means that advertisers still get some feedback on the "intent signals" of the users that have seen their ads ? So it is private in the sense you cannot be uniquely identified but some of your intents are somewhat leaky ?

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by jonathansampson »

trpc wrote: post #18

1. Build a theme over Chromium 2. Add your ads and tracking system over it 3. Brand it as "X Browser" This is not a browser, this is a skin over Chrome with a business model that's built over a crypto scam. Your army of online shills and your attempts to connect yourselves with reputable online entities such as Wikipedia won't change that fact.

Brave isn't a theme to Chromium. We've made numerous changes to the underlying bits to strip out (or modify) anything that is not aligned with our principles of user-first, private and secure by default, and "Can't be evil."

Before Brave, users were already installing ad and tracker blockers in large numbers. By 2015 over 600 million devices were blocking. This is the result of an entire set of technologies evolving into surveillance capitalism, and users have little-to-no say in the matter.

Brave identified the problem, and focused on a complete solution. Simply blocking trackers (and the ads that rely on them) doesn't help the Web. In fact, it hurts the Web as it drives content we love behind pay walls, or offline entirely.

Brave created the Rewards program to better facilitate consumer-to-creator support. With Brave Ads, users can opt-in to seeing safe, private advertisements (matched locally on their device by adaptive machine-learning), receive 70% of the ad revenue into an in-situ wallet, and thus use those tokens to support their favorite creators in a private, anonymous manner.

Wikipedia is a stellar example of the type of site producing phenomenal content, that many of us would love to see continue on the Web. I've been supporting them with contributions over the last couple of days, and look forward to continuing to do so on into the future. How do you support the content you enjoy?

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by hobofan »

jonathansampson wrote: post #14
sigmar wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave ads are targeted through on-device matching. I'm not sure how well this will scale tho. Described in "Relevance" here: https://brave.com/brave-ads-launch/

Correct. Once a user opts-in, machine-learning bits on the user's device take over and begin to study browsing habits and interests. These ML bits then decide what types of ads are likely to be of interest to the user. What are your scaling concerns? I'd love to hear more!

I would assume that once a lot of advertisers are on the platform the ad catalogue can quickly grow to the size of GBs, which would be unfeasible to hold on smartphones.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by jonathansampson »

mayneack wrote: post #17
vorpalhex wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...Why not skip the middleman and just fund websites with, you know, USD? Obviously in the case of Wikipedia, we can donate (and please do so!) but I'd gladly throw $0.20 at a website to not get ads for a day or something.

Is there a different way to automatically pay based on how long I actually spend on a site?

That's the default behavior, known as Auto Contribute in Brave. If 10% of your time is spent on Wikipedia, they'll get 10% of your monthly budget.

You can contribute in this manner, or/also via tips (which are one-off contributions). You can also set a fixed percentage for the property, and set it as a recurring contribution each month.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by dymk »

snek wrote: post #33

Does brave still suck up money from people even when the site owner hasn't set up brave payments?

And not just that, they’ve moved/are moving to a model of displaying their own ads instead, which are invariably for some scammy crypto-of-the-day which even FB and Google ban from their ad platforms

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by JohnTHaller »

We signed up for Brave's setup at PortableApps.com after a few users asked about it. They hold your last 90 days in escrow, so you can find out how successful it is once you sign up. We were looking at around 10 cents a day for a bit under a million monthly users for that timeframe over the summer. And we can't even access it since Brave only works with one crypto provider and they aren't licensed in New York. The process was also pretty buggy and the magic link email login was clunky/kinda broken.

https://portableapps.com/node/60580

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by Kiro »

bilucy wrote: post #32

BAT token is tradable on exchanges, and price floats and is unstable. Donation receivers need to worry about exchange rates risk - https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/basic-attention-token How about USD or USD stable currencies for this?

BAT is Brave's own token that they did an ICO for so I doubt they would move to something else.
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