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Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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I don’t want BATs and I don’t want ads. I want to be able to donate to content creators through Apple Pay instantly.

Google tried this with contributor, dunno what happened to it: http://contributor.google.com

Assumedly because not enough people were willing to outright pay cash to websites (rather than just receiving ads) to justify the platform cost.

I loved Contributor. I wish more people had loved it too.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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post #31

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Thanks for chiming in. So from the FAQ : https://brave.com/faq/#all-ads-blocked > Each ad request is anonymous, and exposes only a small subset of the user’s preferences and intent signals to prevent “fingerprinting” the user by a possibly unique set of tags. It means that advertisers still get some feedback on the "intent signals" of the users that have seen their ads ? So it is private in the sense you cannot be un…

Not quite, I think that FAQ item needs to be updated. The model works like this: The user opts-in to Brave Rewards/Ads. This kicks off a machine-learning model that begins to study the user's habits and interests. On a daily basis, the user downloads a regional ad catalog (as to other Brave users in their region). This catalog contains numerous ad options, which your device studies for relevance. If/when your device…

Thanks that's very clear and helpful.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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post #18

1. Build a theme over Chromium 2. Add your ads and tracking system over it 3. Brand it as "X Browser" This is not a browser, this is a skin over Chrome with a business model that's built over a crypto scam. Your army of online shills and your attempts to connect yourselves with reputable online entities such as Wikipedia won't change that fact.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say Brave is a scam, but it does extort companies and websites by effectively saying, "We're shutting down your monetization sources (no longer showing your ads). If you want that money (or a different cut), sign up for our platform instead."

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

#154

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It isn't silly. How about I don't trust either one of them? Brave is (and you are) saying I should trust Brave because they're going to rip out Google's tracking and insert their own instead. No thank you. I'll stick with Firefox and whatever chicanery Mozilla is up to.

If you don't trust Brave, how would that be any better if they were using Firefox as the base for their browser over Chromium?

EDIT: I let my parent comment get the best of me, and I apologize for using the language I did. I'm going to leave it here, though, because it does express my frustration at whataboutism.

Excuse my profanity, but what the fuck are you on about?

Why the fuck would I use a browser that has the explicit fucking purpose of tracking me, whatever fucking base they base their fucking browser on?

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

#155
post #12

I really like what Brave is doing. I wish it was built on Firefox instead of Chromium. I just don't see myself leaving Firefox without major upheaval in the browser space.

Mozilla's focus is user's rights online and privacy. They have a track record doing that. Brave (AKA AdBuddy) is just another product, desperately looking for a revenue stream, notably believing contaminating all news regarding browser technology with its presence is the way to go.

The last thing the world needs is a predatory vendor trying to force itself somewhere it's not needed. Its non existing market share is the proof.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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This is kind of silly. When you copy open source code, it doesn't give any magic access to the people who wrote it. If there is anything wrong with it, it has to appear on the source code somewhere. The question you should be asking is whether you trust Brave to vet the source code and remove anything that seems like a problem.

IMO just because it's open source doesn't mean it's safe. I would trust a closed source project that has been thoroughly and extensively vetted by a third-party auditor I trust far more than an open source project that has no audit for me to reference. As I am not a professional security auditor, my ability to understand the minutiae of developer decisions (intentional and unintentional) in some multi-million-LOC pro…

Can you give an example of a closed-source project you trust because it has been audited by a third party?

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

#157
post #18

1. Build a theme over Chromium 2. Add your ads and tracking system over it 3. Brand it as "X Browser" This is not a browser, this is a skin over Chrome with a business model that's built over a crypto scam. Your army of online shills and your attempts to connect yourselves with reputable online entities such as Wikipedia won't change that fact.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say Brave is a scam, but it does extort companies and websites by effectively saying, "We're shutting down your monetization sources (no longer showing your ads). If you want that money (or a different cut), sign up for our platform instead."

That's exactly what I said below but I got flagged. here is a copy

Please don't speak as if you give a single damn about publishers. """Your""" adblocking system blocks the ads that publishers get revenue from, you're simply saying, YOU CAN ONLY MAKE MONEY THROUGH US. WITH OUR VIRTUAL WORTHLESS CRYPTOCURRENCY. With enough users, your worthless cryptocurrency won't become worthless anymore. The entire business model is disgusting and should be illegal to be honest.You're rebranding an entire huge project called Chromium and simply blocking revenues for publishers and wasting ads of advertisers unless they advertise and see ads THROUGH YOU and publishers get revenues through your worthless crypto-currency

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

#158
post #58

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Would you please tell your CEO to stop the shilling campaign on 4chan? this thing has become so smelly that you should stop it once and for all.

What are you talking about? I am not on 4chan, Brave does nothing there.

I am sure it doesn't, these are true loving hardcore Brave users spamming favorable and shill threads of your product on 4chan all day long, everyday.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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post #3

I had never read the Brave ad model before. They want to display ads while respecting user privacy, which is nice from a user point of view, but do advertisers actually want that rather than being able to target 35-40 years old in Ohio that are using shaving products twice a week ?

Brave developer here. Great question! Brave Ads are entirely opt-in, and work via on-device machine-learning. The machine-learning bits study your browsing habits in a private, non-leaky manner. Once a day, your device downloads an aggregate catalog of many ad options to be studied locally. If/when an ad is found that fits your interests (as inferred by your browsing habits), the ad is displayed as an OS notification…

Does the viewing of an ad leak data? Eg, if they know my IP viewed an ad, and they were targeting males 15-25, wouldn't that leak the data? Are there systems in place to prevent this sort of data leak as well?
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