Does this mean it is royalty free now?
exFAT in the Linux kernel
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Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel
#242wan't Samsung providing a GPL-version of exFAT for Linux already? what's the difference assuming this news means we will have a native exFAT driver in kernel "soon". Is exFAT only good for file storage considering it has no journal ling? putting rootfs on it may have a dysfunction system relatively easily without fsck I assume.
I have extensive (bad) experience with exFAT implemntation on other platforms than Windows. My external disk formatted as exFAT gets constantly corrupted (need fsck), when used on macOS and Linux. On Linux I use this Samsung's exfat-nofuse kernel driver on raspberry pi. ExFAT fs is mounted read-only and still get corrupted.
So I don't share the excitement with most folks here. Until driver gets better, exFAT is not rock solid option for sharing data between OSes.
Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel
#243Hmm.. Oops! now exFAT will bring the [A-Za-z] case in-sensitivities into the GNU/Linux system.
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that segment? I would wonder something is wrong, if they didn't. Ideapads are in market segment, that is extremely price sensitive, but not quality-sensitive. If the competition would cost 10 bucks less, it would be a huge win for them, so everyone tries to minimize price while preserving margins as much as possible. In the end, these devices do ship with Windows, which has privacy problems anyway. All this is moo…
> In the end, these devices do ship with Windows, which has privacy problems anyway. It does, but those are "theoretical" in comparison to the degree Lenovo stooped on, it doesn't excuse Superfish at all. Windows isn't a free for all platform, yet. > All this is moot, when you put Linux on it, which was the context we were talking about. _That_ time. I'll copy a response I provided two months ago as Lenovo on HN has…
Every single company did stupid things in the past (not just CE/ITC companies; but the builder that built your house too, for example). You can be outraged by many things all of them did. By choosing, what you are or are not outraged, you are just rationalizing your preferences.
Was superfish stupid mistake? Yes, it was. Does it mean you should condemn the company for the rest of eternity? Probably not.
Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that segment? I would wonder something is wrong, if they didn't. Ideapads are in market segment, that is extremely price sensitive, but not quality-sensitive. If the competition would cost 10 bucks less, it would be a huge win for them, so everyone tries to minimize price while preserving margins as much as possible. In the end, these devices do ship with Windows, which has privacy problems anyway. All this is moo…
To each his own, in my opinion consumer market for laptops being a trash fire doesn't excuse putting malware on them.
Yes, it was stupid. Should that mean you are never going to buy thinkpad again? Probably not.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
They already extorted Android OEMs using exFat patents for billions, might as well try to look nice.
As much as I hate the patent bullying Android should have never used FAT for ANYTHING . The stupidity around that continues to make everyone's lives hard to this day.
You need to support it if you want to properly support removable SD cards.
Microsoft managed to make their patent encumbered exFAT file system a required part of the SDXC card spec, just as their much-abused patents on FAT32 were expiring.
I guess it is gracious of them to partially undo the damage they've done, now that they have given up on Windows Phone.
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I didn't hear back from prospective jobs that asked for a word format specifically This almost always means you're speaking to a recruiter who is going to strip your identity from the resume so they can hold it hostage for an agreed commission. This also puts your submission at a disadvantage because you're automatically 10% more expensive than the next guy. If you're submitting your job application, double check t…
Thanks for the tip, I learnt this a long time ago, I've also moved into an industry where dealing with recruiters would probably indicate other issues like lack of ability to research prospective employers, etc. I'm glad it's becoming more common knowledge though. Recruiters have long been redundant compared to job search websites like seek.
In some cases yes, but the majority of jobs are never formally advertised.
Where do you think MD (Managing Directors), CxOs and other high level people go for jobs?
The majority of them will get their next position through who they know, not a job board.
Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel
#248I'll believe Microsoft loves Linux when I can install Microsoft Office in my desktop Linux machine. Everything else is marketing. Edit: to expand, the corporate world runs on Excel/PowerPoint/Outlook. Microsoft milks them on Windows/Office licensing and is very aggressive against organizations that try to do Linux deployments. They're a convicted monopolist that got away easily when at some point the option on the ta…
Given that Microsoft is a for-profit company, what's the financial justification for writing office for Linux on desktop? The market share isn't even a rounding error and you're talking about them investing tens of millions minimum into the development. The fact they have office on Android, iOS, and osx proves it's about market share and common sense, not some fabricated hatred or fear of Linux on the desktop.
> you're talking about them
> investing tens of millions
> minimum into the development
Do you have a source for this hyperbole??
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, we are losing the war. Open Source is not an impediment to Microsoft's attacks on users' freedom. You can get a job on LinkedIn to write code on GitHub that runs on Windows and talks to a server deployed to Azure with a single click from within the README.md . In that ecosystem, permissively licensed Open Source software just helps Microsoft exploit you. Which is why Microsoft unironically love Open Source and ar…
This is not just a dump of soon to expire patent. The patent grant and their support and commitment to indemnify anyone who uses it through OIN proves to me, that at least when it comes to this, they are acting in good faith. Listen, my first job outta high school was at Red Hat. For the majority of my life I hated Microsoft and everything they stood for. The bottom line is, money talks (the virtues or lack thereof o…
> Eventually they had NO CHOICE
> but to evolve or die.
So, really they haven't done anyone any favours then?
Why do you think so many people look upon their acts as something with good intentions?
Just better marketing spin?
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, dumb question. :) I guess I never noticed a problem because either I mostly use ext3/4, or I am so used to using legally dubious drivers that I forgot they were there. I mean, who ever gives you a FAT formatted disk? I don't have floppy drive anyway :p
Linux itself creates a FAT partition for /boot, because the UEFI standard supports loading from FAT. As well, if you ever look at a live-CD (like the installers for most modern Linux distros are), it will usually be using SYSLINUX, which limits itself to 8.3 filenames, for various good reasons to do with floppies, PXE, and ISO9660. Mount an Ubuntu CD in Windows and you'll see them.
> UEFI standard supports
> loading from FAT.
Actually UEFI REQUIRES the bootable partition to be FAT (not not exFAT).
UEFI also requires the executables to be in the COFF format ( instead of the normal ELF one ) too.