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MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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The worst thing is, the 2015 MBP keyboard was nearly perfect. The vast majority of the time I don't even use an external keyboard even when I am working at a desk and am plugged into monitor. It's one thing to fail at designing something because it is hard and you haven't figured it out yet. It's quite another to regress to incompetence on something you already perfected.

I totally agree. Just this year I bought a new computer and chose a refurbished 2015 MBP based almost entirely on the keyboard.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148 Edit: added "reports are"

that's good to hear. I've been wanting to upgrade from my 2013 model, but the keyboards are so shit that I decided to wait. Might still not buy one if they still have a Touch Bar though (and omg, touch bar was automatically made uppercase...) Apple, I love you, but I hate you too.

What about if they have a touch bar but also have a hardware escape key? That's really the only thing about the touch bar Mac keyboard layout that I hate. (I don't actually mind the feel of the butterfly keys -- I'm typing on them now -- but I don't love them, either. Although if they kept this key feel, maybe just doubled the travel, and brought the reliability back in line with the older scissor switches, I'd be totally on board.)

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148 Edit: added "reports are"

I really wish this was the top comment. I feel like HN is turning a little too much into an echo chamber dunk fest sometimes.

I personally have reduced my participation due to said echo chamber. If you want to have comments voted there is a pretty easy formula to follow.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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post #90

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You think the company that makes you buy an extra 'fuck you' dongle to plug in your brand new phone into your brand new computer will let you trade up? Sorry if you already bought the lemon model. I'd sell before the new one drops to take less of a hit if I were in your shoes.

Don't forget makes you buy a monitor stand separately for that few thousand dollar monitor

"makes you"

huh..

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148 Edit: added "reports are"

that's good to hear. I've been wanting to upgrade from my 2013 model, but the keyboards are so shit that I decided to wait. Might still not buy one if they still have a Touch Bar though (and omg, touch bar was automatically made uppercase...) Apple, I love you, but I hate you too.

I'd love it if they simply re-issued the 2013 model. I have a 2013 MacBook Pro and it has been great. Every iteration since then has been worse (keyboards, batteries, touchbar, etc).

Logic Pro is the only thing that might force me to by an inferior current model Macbook if my 2013 model croaks. I'm about to start experimenting with Ardour to see if my Logic Pro dependency can be removed.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think the company that makes you buy an extra 'fuck you' dongle to plug in your brand new phone into your brand new computer will let you trade up? Sorry if you already bought the lemon model. I'd sell before the new one drops to take less of a hit if I were in your shoes.

You plug your phone into your computer?

~~Deploying and debugging iOS apps is still not available via wi-fi I believe.~~ Edit: added xcode 9.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think the company that makes you buy an extra 'fuck you' dongle to plug in your brand new phone into your brand new computer will let you trade up? Sorry if you already bought the lemon model. I'd sell before the new one drops to take less of a hit if I were in your shoes.

Don't forget makes you buy a monitor stand separately for that few thousand dollar monitor

I get it's an easy target to make fun of, and it's probably over-priced, but the concept of a separate stand is not entirely unreasonable (especially as many "pros" already have stands they like). At least they're offering a VESA adapter, though it's stupid to charge $200 for it.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Go give windows a try and report back. I've been using Windows for the past couple of weeks and, granted maybe I haven't really given it a chance, using it after using Macs for 10+ years is not great. Maybe developing on macOS has become a hassle (I don't see that, but sure), but doing everything on Windows is a hassle. Taking a screenshot. Opening the right file. Displaying UI at a reasonable scale . Think what you…

Eh, as someone who's primarily used Windows (and a bit of Linux with xfce) for my entire life I find Macs basically unusable (seriously how do I browse the file system). I think it's more of a question of familiarity than anything else.

MacOS shine truly with the adoption of companion apps, like Alfred. Bettertouchtool, Popclip, Fantastical, Post-it apps, Bartender, and others (like totalfinder and totalspace) and the integration of these app in the status bar or finder or even the integration with iOS.

Linux desktop experience and all its software suite are rudimentary compared to MacOS with these additions. I'm coming from there and before that Windows, and MacOS is definitivelly the OS which offer the best desktop experience.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148 Edit: added "reports are"

To me the, the worst thing with MacBook keyboards is when keys start to fade out[1]. I really hope they could do something about it [0] https://caio.ariede.life/macbook-blurred-keys/

I can't believe they aren't double-shot. Or just color the whole thing, like Nintendo did with its switch buttons. Lettering and all, so it never rubs off. That would be the kind of quality I'd expect to see for the price of an apple lap top computer.
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