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MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#81

Zero idea what everyone’s complaining about. I’ve had the new one for five months. Never even had a second thought about the keyboard and I code for real, as in, I get paid for it.

The keyboard issues are inevitable with this design unless you work in a literal clean room. Check back in a year.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#83
Hear, hear! I used a 2018 MacBook for a little over a year; my work laptop is now a ThinkPad running Linux. My personal laptop is a 2015 MacBook. When it dies, I will not replace it with a butterfly-switch laptop.

(I also miss USB type A and MagSafe, but the keyboard was the deal breaker.)

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#85
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It's funny, I resisted an upgrade until my 2015 MBP became unusable, in part because I dreaded the keyboard. I do miss physical function keys, but I actually like the more clacky & tactile butterfly keys. Maybe I'll feel differently once I finally manage to work a crumb underneath one of them.

Yeah, the feel of the butterfly mechanism is subjectively excellent. I can type faster on it than even my mech keyboard at home, which is a very impressive feat. But my MacBook is going in for its second keyboard repair in a year soon, so... They're apparently ditching the butterfly keyboard in the next redesign. Bittersweet as someone who loves the keyfeel, but I guess it's for the best so here's hoping.

The new scissor design is said to feel more like the butterfly but with more travel rather than reverting to the old scissor design, if that makes you feel any better.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#86
Semi off-topic, but I do see ThinkPads mentioned here.

I want to ditch the Macbook Air 2019 and move away from Apple. I hear Thinkpads mentioned a LOT, but when I research them online, I see talks about poor battery life, poor QA, etc.

Any insight?

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#87

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Especially the trackpad and its gestures. I have a surface book at work and the trackpad is just dreadful compared to MacBook. Everything else is pretty ok

I switched when the surface book 1 came out (now on a surface book 2) but man I still miss the customizable trackpad gestures I had on my macbook pro. I don't recall the program I used but it allowed for gestures like three fingers with the index tapping to move to the next chrome tab to the left etc. I have been trying for years to replicate that in windows :(

Was it BetterTouchTool?

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#89

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Go give windows a try and report back. I've been using Windows for the past couple of weeks and, granted maybe I haven't really given it a chance, using it after using Macs for 10+ years is not great. Maybe developing on macOS has become a hassle (I don't see that, but sure), but doing everything on Windows is a hassle. Taking a screenshot. Opening the right file. Displaying UI at a reasonable scale . Think what you…

> Taking a screenshot. Opening the right file Former is PrtScn key on my keyboard. Microsoft ships Snipping Tools and lately Snip n Sketch for screenshots - never had any issues with either. Latter - not sure what you mean - opening the right file as in setting default program to open a file? That's easy enough and it's the best experience on Windows.

This is actually the one use case where I'm happiest with the Mac + touchbar. OSX lets you screenshot a portion of the screen, a particular window, or the entire screen, and save it to clipboard or desktop, and the keyboard combinations to choose between these are pretty hard to remember.

But the touchbar lets you touch a single button, off-screen, and then clearly choose between these options: https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201361

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#90

For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148 Edit: added "reports are"

Great, will they be offering free trade-ins? These are $2000 computers that have a major broken component. Not to mention, the second a computer comes on sale that doesn't have this issue, the resale value of the current MacBooks will be disproportionately affected compared to previous revisions. So a nice double whammy: a miserable experience during its use, and an unusually small resale value afterwards.

You think the company that makes you buy an extra 'fuck you' dongle to plug in your brand new phone into your brand new computer will let you trade up?

Sorry if you already bought the lemon model. I'd sell before the new one drops to take less of a hit if I were in your shoes.

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