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MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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I don't know anyone who was a real TTY user who likes on touchbar.

I don't know any EMACS user who likes on touchbar.

If I do the join over these and anyone else I ask, I actually don't know anyone who likes on touchbar.

I think Apple took a long standing market acceptance in the community I live in, and basically trashed it, for lipgloss.

I expect to move to a Lenovo Carbon X1, with qualms.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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I really wish this was the top comment. I feel like HN is turning a little too much into an echo chamber dunk fest sometimes.

Also, just to throw another opinion into this dumpster fire: I had to get a new laptop, knew I was getting a 2019 MBP, and was terrified the keyboard experience would be horrendous due to the coverage I see on the topic here. And it isn't at all. It feels different than my 2015 model, but... definitely not worse. I may even be just slightly better because it's noticeably quieter. Just one perspective, but yeah. The k…

Quieter? You must have softest typing finger touch imaginable. Every person I see use it is dramatically louder than the old style.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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> Taking a screenshot. Opening the right file Former is PrtScn key on my keyboard. Microsoft ships Snipping Tools and lately Snip n Sketch for screenshots - never had any issues with either. Latter - not sure what you mean - opening the right file as in setting default program to open a file? That's easy enough and it's the best experience on Windows.

Snipping tool looks like something cobbled together for a capstone project compared to macos shift cmd 4 which doesn't get in your way at all.

It's been largely updated from several weeks (months?) ago (windows shift S now replaces the old snipping tool).

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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I feel you. A long time ago I had a windows laptop keyboard that was glitching out. After a few weeks, I literally threw it out the window in frustration! I'm more mature now, I think...

No. You just can't be seen typing on anything but a Mac. It would destroy your street cred.

Apple could triple the price of the MBP and reduce quality still further and the HN crowd would still queue up to buy it!!!

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Unpopular opinion: I want a touch keyboard with incredible haptic feedback. Long-throw keys trigger my particular RSI symptoms the worst. If I could move my fingers even less and apply even less force than I need to on the butterfly keyboard, I would be ecstatic.

You would benefit more from actual feedback that lets you know when you've actuated the press before bottoming out (which causes you to apply excessive force). It's not usually the travel distance that hurts you.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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post #151

I don't know anyone who was a real TTY user who likes on touchbar. I don't know any EMACS user who likes on touchbar. If I do the join over these and anyone else I ask, I actually don't know anyone who likes on touchbar. I think Apple took a long standing market acceptance in the community I live in, and basically trashed it, for lipgloss. I expect to move to a Lenovo Carbon X1, with qualms.

FWIW, most people I know remap caps lock to ESC for ergonomic reasons, so for them removing the physical escape key was a no-op. I realize that's a vanishing minority of normal people though :)

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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> If Apple releases their new Macs with an identical keyboard, then I'm ditching Macs and will pick up a Microsoft Surface Book or something similar. Whatever it is, I'll make sure to pick a laptop that has a god damned functional keyboard. Same here, MBP keyboards are unbearable. Trying to develop on OSX has become a hassle. Gotta jump through hoops to get gdb to work. Windows with WSL on a Surface Book feels extrem…

The Surface Book 2's (the model I own) keyboard is probably one of the best laptop keyboard on the market today. Proper key travel and spacing and it's even backlit. I particularly like that they volume controls are on F1-F3 since they plus the Fn key can be operated single-handedly. I just wish it ran Linux better - I find Windows unusable.

I love the Surface Book 2's keyboard, but it's trackpad still leaves a lot of room for improvement.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Great, will they be offering free trade-ins? These are $2000 computers that have a major broken component. Not to mention, the second a computer comes on sale that doesn't have this issue, the resale value of the current MacBooks will be disproportionately affected compared to previous revisions. So a nice double whammy: a miserable experience during its use, and an unusually small resale value afterwards.

You think the company that makes you buy an extra 'fuck you' dongle to plug in your brand new phone into your brand new computer will let you trade up? Sorry if you already bought the lemon model. I'd sell before the new one drops to take less of a hit if I were in your shoes.

You plug your phone into your computer?

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#160

For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148 Edit: added "reports are"

To me the, the worst thing with MacBook keyboards is when keys start to fade out[1]. I really hope they could do something about it [0] https://caio.ariede.life/macbook-blurred-keys/

God, I hate this. 2018 MacBook Pro, had it less than a year, already getting patches like that on some keys.
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