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Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by djsumdog »

smt88 wrote: post #88
djsumdog wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use Hangouts for SMS, but the product is half assed at best. I wonder when Google will kill Hangouts for good.

They already announced that they're killing it. It was supposed to start sunsetting next month, with Voice/Fi users moved to Hangouts Chat. I'm not holding my breath.

So, I don't use G Suite. I just have the free consumer Hangouts (without Gmail; deleted that a long time ago .. which after the G+ shutdown, means I can no longer search contact .. weird).

I'm super confused by their blog post:

https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2019/01/upcoming-hangou...

So for regular old consumer Hangouts (formerly part of G+) is that going away too? What happens to the phone number I have attached to it. .. I feel like I should port that way from Google sooner rather than later.

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Post by generalpf »

nateps wrote: post #79

I'm the founder and CTO of Lever ( https://www.lever.co ), a similar product and part of YC S12. I recommend you check us out! I was also a PM at Google from 2007-2011. A big part of why I left and founded Lever is that I'm super passionate about enterprise software, and vertical enterprise software (even in huge markets) isn't aligned well with Google's core business.

I use Lever at work and it’s absolutely excellent.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by stephenr »

xg15 wrote: post #38
traek wrote: post #25

This makes sense, Hire was born out of Bebop (founded by Diane Greene, former VMware founder/CEO). Google acquihired Bebop to get Diane Greene as head of Google Cloud (which is why this product was lumped under their cloud division), but she left Google earlier this year. No reason for Google to keep it running now.

So I guess we now passed the aqui-hire (acquire a company you're not interested in to get the people you want) and arrived at the prod-hire: Build a product you're not interested in to acquire a company you're not interested in to get the people you want.

... until they leave.

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Post by manigandham »

smt88 wrote: post #47
cbisnett wrote: post #9

I wonder if Google has unintentionally created a self-reinforcing feedback loop where potential customers don’t trust the products will be supported for more than 24 months which leads to limited adoption which in turn leads to the products being canceled before 24 months. Pair that with other HN comments that have described a situation where it’s easier to get promoted from launching a product vs maintaining an exis…

After the Hangouts/Allo/Duo debacle, I've done exactly this. I'll never put time into a new Google product again. My projects don't use G Suites or Cloud, either. I can't be the only one.

G Suite and Google Cloud are very different. GSuite is the enterprise version of the consumer apps which have billions of users so it's not going anywhere. Google Cloud has potential to meet or exceed adtech revenue and has some very big commercial customers.

It's these smaller apps that suffer because $400/month isn't enough to make a difference at Google scale. They do have a mandate to keep innovating but it's a strange cycle where the company produces some great software and then abandons it due to lack of success, because it's already too successful.

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