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Re: Sunsetting Hire

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post #15

While this is splendid news of another fallen Google product, I'm afraid this time it is different. Google has a similar alternative to outgrow and to completely replace Hire which is called Byteboard [0]. [0] https://byteboard.dev/

That's an a120 incubator project, meaning it's being created in a separate part of the company as an experimental product.

https://area120.google.com/

Re: Sunsetting Hire

#42
post #5

Companies are going to avoid new Google offerings given this behavior. They marketed Hire by Google hard. Glad we didn't sign up and waste integration effort on this.

Are going to? They already are. I will no longer consider a Google product for work purposes. Even for big stuff they are committed to like their cloud offering there is no confidence that individual features within it they you rely on won't get killed off.

you dont use gmail or google apps for business? i think their mail and docs/sheets are not a risk. everything else i wouldnt place a bet on

Re: Sunsetting Hire

#43
This is surprising considering how many companies I've seen use Hire in my current job search. Was it not profitable? I wonder what the backlash is going to be for all the companies that spent time integrating it into their hiring workflows.

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#44
post #27
post #9

I wonder if Google has unintentionally created a self-reinforcing feedback loop where potential customers don’t trust the products will be supported for more than 24 months which leads to limited adoption which in turn leads to the products being canceled before 24 months. Pair that with other HN comments that have described a situation where it’s easier to get promoted from launching a product vs maintaining an exis…

Doubt it. This never made much sense as a Google offering. Very strong players in this category offering more complete solutions. Not obvious what Google brings here.

It was the best product we tried. We literally discussed internally will they drop support and thought they would keep it. The feedback loop grows.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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post #5

Companies are going to avoid new Google offerings given this behavior. They marketed Hire by Google hard. Glad we didn't sign up and waste integration effort on this.

Are going to? They already are. I will no longer consider a Google product for work purposes. Even for big stuff they are committed to like their cloud offering there is no confidence that individual features within it they you rely on won't get killed off.

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Re: Sunsetting Hire

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post #9

I wonder if Google has unintentionally created a self-reinforcing feedback loop where potential customers don’t trust the products will be supported for more than 24 months which leads to limited adoption which in turn leads to the products being canceled before 24 months. Pair that with other HN comments that have described a situation where it’s easier to get promoted from launching a product vs maintaining an exis…

After the Hangouts/Allo/Duo debacle, I've done exactly this. I'll never put time into a new Google product again. My projects don't use G Suites or Cloud, either.

I can't be the only one.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

#49
post #21

Does google actually have a worse track record on shutdowns than the average startup? Random 10 person companies shut down all the time, but we seem to pay extra attention when it's a 10 person team inside Google.

No 10-person company's product story is as unfocused and insane as Google's. They abandon products right after building them, they change names of products confusingly and frequently, and they always have 2+ products that mostly overlap.

There's this sense that we're constantly being baited and switched. No small company could afford to give its users whiplash as often as Google does.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

#50

Just out of curiosity, what happens to the engineers that work on these projects that get shutdown by Google? Do they get laid off?

Lord no. My thinking was "I wonder what high-priority project required the talent that was working on Hire that they had to reorg the teams to it and kill the product."

I don't think Google has ever had any layoffs. (The use of contractors allows many companies to downsize without actual layoffs, but I don't think even that strategy has really been the case during Google's history so far, which has been growth heavy and cash rich for the most part.)

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