Does google actually have a worse track record on shutdowns than the average startup? Random 10 person companies shut down all the time, but we seem to pay extra attention when it's a 10 person team inside Google.
Sunsetting Hire
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#23Does anyone have recommendations for good alternatives? We were sure this would be a good idea when moving to it. :(
We use Lever and have been pretty happy with it. Easy to use and good integrations.
We used Lever too. Until the renewal price came. $10,000+ doesn’t make any sense if only planning to hire a handful of people / yr
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#24Nothing new under the sunset. https://gcemetery.co
Use https://killedbygoogle.com/ ! It's open source, and writes savage tweets. It also answers a question I usually have to ask about shut down Google products: What was it in the first place?
Someone already has a PR to add Hire: https://github.com/codyogden/killedbygoogle/pull/567
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#25This makes sense, Hire was born out of Bebop (founded by Diane Greene, former VMware founder/CEO).
Google acquihired Bebop to get Diane Greene as head of Google Cloud (which is why this product was lumped under their cloud division), but she left Google earlier this year. No reason for Google to keep it running now.
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#26There is no reason this needs to be a SAAS product, and at this point we should know better than to trusting any SAAS product offered by Google.
I wish they would take the approach of making it trivial for me to host an open source version myself on Google Cloud rather than just throwing away the work: it would let them keep making money and mean that I could actually have enough faith to use their products.
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#27I wonder if Google has unintentionally created a self-reinforcing feedback loop where potential customers don’t trust the products will be supported for more than 24 months which leads to limited adoption which in turn leads to the products being canceled before 24 months. Pair that with other HN comments that have described a situation where it’s easier to get promoted from launching a product vs maintaining an exis…
Doubt it. This never made much sense as a Google offering. Very strong players in this category offering more complete solutions. Not obvious what Google brings here.
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#28Does google actually have a worse track record on shutdowns than the average startup? Random 10 person companies shut down all the time, but we seem to pay extra attention when it's a 10 person team inside Google.
When I get involved with a random 10 person company, I know what I'm getting into.
Using the google brand provides(provided) a sense of respectability and deeper pockets/longer term vision.
Some users, I believe rightfully so, feel betrayed by google's lackadaisical approach to starting and shutting down projects. Especially when comparing the effort to market vs create a great product. Like google +, it was shoved down people's throats, only to be tossed.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you mean Diane Green? What the company's name that was sold to Google?
Bebop
I thought you were joking, but the name really is Bebop...
https://www.bizjournals.com/bizwomen/news/latest-news/2018/1...
"Greene joined Google in 2015 when the search giant bought her startup, Bebop, for $380 million."
$380mm sounds like a pretty great signing bonus.
Edit: I shouldn't have spoke so soon re: the signing bonus joke. Looks like she ended up donating her $150mm share: "Greene intends to donate $148.62 million of those proceeds 'to a donor advised fund.'"
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#30My first thought was "Wait, didn't they only launch this a year or so ago?".