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Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by kevstev »

asdkhadsj wrote: post #23
tannhaeuser wrote: post #20

A bit offtopic, but does anybody know a micro server the size of an Intel NUC or Mac Mini, but with 100+W desktop/server (real, not cloud) hardware for use as CI server?

Good question. I too wonder. To extend your question with my own; What would be a cost effective solution to setting up home servers for CI/storage/whatever? I could of course just buy random PC parts, but I'm curious to hear what people are liking. Are you liking your home servers form factor? Price tag? etc.

I have long been a fan of Synology NAS's for this type of thing (I have been using one since 2007). They offer CPUs these days that should be beefy enough for a CI use case, unless you have a very large project. QNAP offers similar products as well.

I bought one as I just wanted a low power always-on server that Just Worked with a software ecosystem around it. You can now run docker containers on them as well easily.

I can access at home or via the web- they provide a dyndns service so I can just go to http://quickconnect.to/$username and access from anywhere.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by Dunedan »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #20

A bit offtopic, but does anybody know a micro server the size of an Intel NUC or Mac Mini, but with 100+W desktop/server (real, not cloud) hardware for use as CI server?

Check out ASRock's DeskMini series [1]. While slightly larger than a NUC you can throw in a 65W CPU. Especially the DeskMini A300 [2] for AMD APU's seems to be pretty popular.

[1]: https://www.asrock.com/nettop/index.asp#DeskMini

[2]: https://www.asrock.com/nettop/AMD/DeskMini%20A300%20Series/i...

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by furst »

magashna wrote: post #22
dperfect wrote: post #7

> No server needed. No expensive hardware required... You can use your Router, NAS, Raspberry Pi, Smart TV. So... it turns those things into servers then (many of which already run servers by default)? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but a device running server software is still a server, even if it isn't dedicated to only that task.

Cloud = servers someone else has and mostly maintains for you Cloud...at home? This is a dumb headline. The definition of "server" has gone from big bulky slabs of bare metal to include smaller things like a RPi.

I think the biggest issue in this thread is the multiple definitions of what a cloud is. To most of the people in this thread, the cloud isn't possible at home. To consumers, the cloud is just somewhere else to store their files. This addresses the latter, giving consumers an easy way to store their files on a "server" i.e. their computers, while having it in your home.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by tannhaeuser »

mvanbaak wrote: post #56
tannhaeuser wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A Pi is too weak for my workloads I'm afraid ;) Actually I considered a Hades Canyon (successor to Skull Canyon) with an early Intel 10th gen part but it has it's iGPU disabled and comes with a Radeon (!) GPU which just calls for trouble and additional cooling, though it's still much better than nvdia for Linux I guess. But then I'd rather go all-in on AMD CPUs which are winning in the bang-for-buck and multi-threade…

After the latest update the mac mini is actually a very fine server. They can be configured to hold a 6-core i7 with 64gb RAM.

Not bad I guess, though I failed to find a decent review telling even what CPU and wattage the thing has, let alone how to run it with Linux. Haven't considered a Mac Mini for the job since mine is so dog-slow I'd rather run CI on my notebook.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by zelon88 »

human20190310 wrote: post #60
zelon88 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not wrong about the benefits of the Cloud. Some people make bomb shelters in their basement, some people stockpile canned goods. I stockpile data. I even have an old text only offline copy of the English Wikipedia. My main issues are privacy. I don't want Google peeking into everything I upload for marketing materials. I also don't want to trust a third party company with my kids photos. They can change their…

It's a pretty narrow window of global chaos where this approach is advantageous. You're optimizing for a situation where cloud infrastructure is demolished, but the power grid and/or fuel supply chain required to keep your specific RAID arrays spinning is operational.

One is dependent on the other, no?

If I don't have electricity I don't have ANY storage. Mine or Google's.

But I can still have mine without Google. It doesn't work the other way around. And Google's got a much larger target on their back than I do.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by eximius »

jbverschoor wrote: post #15
infinisil wrote: post #13

From what I can gather from the FAQ, this won't work for routers behind a NAT, which is the case for me and I assume many others too, this should probably be mentioned somewhere. A bit worrying that it'll be forever closed source, especially since it needs to expose your router to the internet and that it's written in C and also this sentence from the FAQ: > Everything was built from scratch

Long live zerotier

Or wireguard with your own DNS (unbound) blackhole-ing ad networks: https://www.ckn.io/blog/2017/11/14/wireguard-vpn-typical-set...

Or IPv6. Personally, I like running a Mikrotik Hex Lite as my home router with Ubiquiti wireless APs behind it. I've definitely learned a lot about networking trying to get everything set up nice and secure. That'd make a good blog post, actually...

EDIT: Zerotier is a great service. I kind of dream of some collaboration between Zerotier and Wireguard. Zerotier is Software Defined Networking, I guess(?), and it'd be cool to have wireguard be part of that stack. Though maybe that's not necessary. I haven't dug into Zerotier recently enough to know if thats redundant or at all useful.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by gorbachev »

drKarl wrote: post #41
tannhaeuser wrote: post #20

A bit offtopic, but does anybody know a micro server the size of an Intel NUC or Mac Mini, but with 100+W desktop/server (real, not cloud) hardware for use as CI server?

I wanted also a small, energy efficient server for CI at home. I was looking at SBCs (Single Board Computers) like Raspberri Pi and now others. Most are ARM based and max out at 2Gb or 4Gb RAM. I ended up buying an Odroid H2, which is x86 and takes up to 32GB RAM. I just received it so haven't put it together yet... also depends what you want to do with it how much you want to spend, I bought 32GB RAM, 1TB nvme and 6…

What kind of enclosure are you using for it?

I currently use a server I built inside a Fractal Node 304 case for that same purpose. While compact for a regular PC type server, it's still a little bulky for my liking.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by indigodaddy »

mvanbaak wrote: post #28
zelon88 wrote: post #19

I'm really into home Cloud stuff. This answers none of my questions. 1) Where will my files be stored? 2) Does Duple store a copy? 3) What does Duple do with my meta data? What do they do with usage stats? 4) Does Duple have any third party contracts or contractors with access to my data? 5) How does putting Duple software on an RPI make my files available from anywhere? How do you enable access to my device from any…

A lot of those questions are answered in their FAQ. The Duple application on your 'server' will simply expose a directory on that system (or a remote SFTP server) to other Duple applications you connect to it. All data will be on the machine you maintain. So no, they are not storing your data for you. To enable access to your device from outside your local network, you have to either give the Duple running machine a…

So this concept is similar to BitTorrent Sync? (Or whatever it’s called now)
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