So I read the frontpage, download/try page and installation and still have absolutely no idea what this project is about.
Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home
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#52Apart from all the other stuff, it seems suspicious that they would use Serpent for encryption, rather than using AES or another more well-known cipher suite (also, no talk about AEAD). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_(cipher)
The article you link perhaps hint at why the developers felt like this: The NIST report apparently suggested Serpent was actually a bit more secure, but Rijndael was chosen for AES because it allowed for a more efficient software implementation. The developers may feel that that trade-off wasn't worth it, although obviously, going with a less-common strategy for encryption is generally discouraged.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is the purpose of having "the cloud" in your home at all? To me "the cloud's" primary value is that it is running off-site, in an environment that capably and regularly deals with broken equipment. If my work is backed up in Google/Dropbox's data center, I don't have to worry about it if my house gets flooded. Having the cloud in your house, running on whatever stuff is laying around, just seems one small step r…
I like to have control over my data and I don't have a lot of trust to most cloud storage services (especially not google). That said in the end it's personal preference, it's not for everyone. I'm also a hobby admin who enjoys it.
I mean, what you're looking for is... an external hard drive, which is what this essentially appears to be (but maybe with some nice versioning built in).
I don't know if it's possible to distinguish this product from a USB stick with git.
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#54> No server needed. No expensive hardware required... You can use your Router, NAS, Raspberry Pi, Smart TV. So... it turns those things into servers then (many of which already run servers by default)? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but a device running server software is still a server, even if it isn't dedicated to only that task.
The FAQ (linked from the very bottom of the page) is more interesting. The server part is just a file server. The client in this case handles all the file syncing, including locking. The client is the interesting part.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like to have control over my data and I don't have a lot of trust to most cloud storage services (especially not google). That said in the end it's personal preference, it's not for everyone. I'm also a hobby admin who enjoys it.
I mean, what you're looking for is... an external hard drive, which is what this essentially appears to be (but maybe with some nice versioning built in). I don't know if it's possible to distinguish this product from a USB stick with git.
The thing you're missing is the ability to access it from anywhere, without having to carry around devices. The whole reason people use the Cloud is because they leave USB sticks and drives behind all the time. Home Cloud solves the trust issue of using a third party to handle private data and also the problem of leaving your storage devices all over the globe (where they can be stolen).
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A Raspberry Pi 4 with 4GB Ram or a Intel NUC Skull Canyon
A Pi is too weak for my workloads I'm afraid ;) Actually I considered a Hades Canyon (successor to Skull Canyon) with an early Intel 10th gen part but it has it's iGPU disabled and comes with a Radeon (!) GPU which just calls for trouble and additional cooling, though it's still much better than nvdia for Linux I guess. But then I'd rather go all-in on AMD CPUs which are winning in the bang-for-buck and multi-threade…
After the latest update the mac mini is actually a very fine server. They can be configured to hold a 6-core i7 with 64gb RAM.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, what you're looking for is... an external hard drive, which is what this essentially appears to be (but maybe with some nice versioning built in). I don't know if it's possible to distinguish this product from a USB stick with git.
The thing you're missing is the ability to access it from anywhere, without having to carry around devices. The whole reason people use the Cloud is because they leave USB sticks and drives behind all the time. Home Cloud solves the trust issue of using a third party to handle private data and also the problem of leaving your storage devices all over the globe (where they can be stolen).
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#58How is this different from syncthing - https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/ ? I am still trying to figure out
Syncthing is peer-to-peer, Duple is one master + many slaves.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, what you're looking for is... an external hard drive, which is what this essentially appears to be (but maybe with some nice versioning built in). I don't know if it's possible to distinguish this product from a USB stick with git.
The thing you're missing is the ability to access it from anywhere, without having to carry around devices. The whole reason people use the Cloud is because they leave USB sticks and drives behind all the time. Home Cloud solves the trust issue of using a third party to handle private data and also the problem of leaving your storage devices all over the globe (where they can be stolen).
Ah, I found their FAQ - sorry I'd been trying to figure stuff out via the marketing material. So it looks like it's basically a multi-transport supporting SFTP-like server that is mostly based around intelligently syncing and ordering your file versions.
The application provides no discoverability solutions (so to use it remotely you've got to know how to acquire a static IP, maybe a name - and then configure firewalls as needed) and from what I can see there is no data replication other than the optimistic statement "The data will probably be on at least one local server and the central file store".
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is the purpose of having "the cloud" in your home at all? To me "the cloud's" primary value is that it is running off-site, in an environment that capably and regularly deals with broken equipment. If my work is backed up in Google/Dropbox's data center, I don't have to worry about it if my house gets flooded. Having the cloud in your house, running on whatever stuff is laying around, just seems one small step r…
You're not wrong about the benefits of the Cloud. Some people make bomb shelters in their basement, some people stockpile canned goods. I stockpile data. I even have an old text only offline copy of the English Wikipedia. My main issues are privacy. I don't want Google peeking into everything I upload for marketing materials. I also don't want to trust a third party company with my kids photos. They can change their…
It's a pretty narrow window of global chaos where this approach is advantageous. You're optimizing for a situation where cloud infrastructure is demolished, but the power grid and/or fuel supply chain required to keep your specific RAID arrays spinning is operational.