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Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

alanbernstein wrote: post #9

I can empathize with most of this, but I can't say I understand the "last straw" bit. How is there anything wrong with DanielK's request?

Given the multiple years various well known routers and other small dedicated devices can go without the necessary source code appearing, getting stroppy when the Pi 4's been out barely 5 weeks (this blog entry is dated 6th Aug, Pi 4 release was 24 June) is a hell of a stretch.

I don't know how quickly Gordon put up the deb file he mentioned, but just going on Pi's release I'd call it very quickly. A week or two later is more suited to an enquiry of "Glad to see pi 4 support so fast, any idea when you might get chance to put up source code?" than "hey you're REQUIRED man, get on with it already...". Better still quietly not enquiring already but just quietly checking github over the coming weeks.

Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by banana_giraffe »

groundlogic wrote: post #58
banana_giraffe wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ages ago, I wrote and maintained some Windows open source stuff. It wasn't GPL, but it was "here's the source code, and a binary version, have fun!". I had a little niche of a certain type of tool in the Windows world, if you searched for how to do a specific thing, my tools would show up. Most of it included my real name and email address in the executable and DLLs details tab, as well as the source code. I was the…

It's super weird for a "developer" to demand assistance from another developer, just because they wrote and published the code, regardless of license.

Sorry if I came of suggesting that. At least in my case the only people demanding support were end-users of applications I didn't write but did use my code. Developers that contacted me were always understanding, with a rare exception, that free stuff got free support.

Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by edoceo »

zmix wrote: post #42
LeonM wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just free/libre/open source software that has this issue. I run an email security SaaS business. It's closed source, but the suite is free of charge to use for personal, non-commercial domains. We get numerous support requests each day of users on the free tier (who are obviously commercial users btw) that DEMAND us to fix all sorts of email problems for them. They regularly threaten that they will write a b…

> Interesting observation: This behavior seems to be culture dependent. I'd say about 90% of our over-demanding free-tier users are from the same region on the planet. I wonder where this is...?!

Mine are 90% in USA - which, I think, was your point?

Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by NikkiA »

steve19 wrote: post #55
dogecoinbase wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't help but be reminded of the feud between xscreensaver's author and Debian maintainers. For the curious, the post: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/04/i-would-like-debian-to-stop... And the instigatory thread: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=819703

Because jwz appears to have a very short fuse and at one point in time one or a group of users on HN didn't agree with him (as best as I can remember), referrals from HN are redirected to an image of a testicle. Here is a wayback machine link to avoid the image: http://web.archive.org/web/20190810115358/https://www.jwz.or...

> an image of a testical.

It's a 'hairy egg', if you see a testicle that's on you.

Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by edoceo »

john_moscow wrote: post #31
LeonM wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just free/libre/open source software that has this issue. I run an email security SaaS business. It's closed source, but the suite is free of charge to use for personal, non-commercial domains. We get numerous support requests each day of users on the free tier (who are obviously commercial users btw) that DEMAND us to fix all sorts of email problems for them. They regularly threaten that they will write a b…

Just out of curiosity: in your experience, do you think offering a free tier instead of a short time-limited trial pays off in terms of attracting paid customers?

Since ours is GPL, that's our free tier. The supported/hosted/training version is paid, first, 15 day full refund then pro-rated. 15 works better than 30 for us.

Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by Gibbon1 »

CDSlice wrote: post #48
dogecoinbase wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't help but be reminded of the feud between xscreensaver's author and Debian maintainers. For the curious, the post: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/04/i-would-like-debian-to-stop... And the instigatory thread: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=819703

Careful, that first link redirects you to a NSFW image coming from HN

If it's not safe for your work, you need a different job.

Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by Gibbon1 »

flyinglizard wrote: post #49
cryptonector wrote: post #29

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It's not "public domain work". The "drama" is that the community abused the author, so the author quit providing free labor to the community.

Would he still be “abused” if he refrained from opening his inbox? Or were there protesters outside his door?

Personalty think if Debian won't change the support email then he should just put in an auto response listing the Debian's maintainers email addresses.

Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by karlp »

Gibbon1 wrote: post #66
CDSlice wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Careful, that first link redirects you to a NSFW image coming from HN

If it's not safe for your work, you need a different job.

It may surprise some people on HN, but for most people in the world, changing jobs is a hard thing to do. And yes middle managers can be that petty.

Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by [deleted] »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #41
alanbernstein wrote: post #9

I can empathize with most of this, but I can't say I understand the "last straw" bit. How is there anything wrong with DanielK's request?

"Not to be a complete ass" ... but then proceeds to be a complete ass. People love to preface statements that they know are going to be rude. If you need to preface a statement like that, reword it so you're being polite. The bit in question just as easily could have said "Hey, Thanks for releasing this! Do you know when the source code will be available? Thanks for all you're hard work"

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Re: WiringPi – deprecated

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Post by Dylan16807 »

NikkiA wrote: post #64
steve19 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because jwz appears to have a very short fuse and at one point in time one or a group of users on HN didn't agree with him (as best as I can remember), referrals from HN are redirected to an image of a testicle. Here is a wayback machine link to avoid the image: http://web.archive.org/web/20190810115358/https://www.jwz.or...

> an image of a testical. It's a 'hairy egg', if you see a testicle that's on you.

What compels you to blatantly lie here?
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