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A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by echion »

cocochanel wrote: post #16
cryptica wrote: post #7

I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion. I very often find myself clicking on the 'Browse desktop version' button when browsing a so-called 'mobile-friendly' version of a site. Is the look of the website really more important than the content and functionality? For me, it's not. This is just another example of a big tech monopoly imposing their highly opinionated ideas on billions of people. Als…

Yet another HN user talking about their use case. 99% of people are not your typical HN user.

99% of the people who don't care about the content are more important than the 1% who do? What if it were 51%? How is it supposed to move, if the standards-setters don't move the passive consumers?

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by wruza »

cocochanel wrote: post #16
cryptica wrote: post #7

I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion. I very often find myself clicking on the 'Browse desktop version' button when browsing a so-called 'mobile-friendly' version of a site. Is the look of the website really more important than the content and functionality? For me, it's not. This is just another example of a big tech monopoly imposing their highly opinionated ideas on billions of people. Als…

Yet another HN user talking about their use case. 99% of people are not your typical HN user.

I just tried to browse while not logged into HN. The issue persists.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by jhcl »

cryptica wrote: post #7

I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion. I very often find myself clicking on the 'Browse desktop version' button when browsing a so-called 'mobile-friendly' version of a site. Is the look of the website really more important than the content and functionality? For me, it's not. This is just another example of a big tech monopoly imposing their highly opinionated ideas on billions of people. Als…

They need you to install their app so they have better control over your device without those pesky browsers with their plugins blocking adds or privacy infringements.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by 0x14c1de72 »

progval wrote: post #26
est wrote: post #11

So google chrome hides www and m in the domain, will Google replace AMP domains as well?

Yes. https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-amp-real-url/

> That signature is all a modern browser (currently just Chrome on Android)

That's a very interesting definition of modern browser.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by Mindwipe »

Kiro wrote: post #29
dkersten wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, 99% of people care more about aesthetics than about than content? Got anything to back that up?

It's also about UX, accessibility, readability etc which often become a mess if you browse the desktop version on mobile. I also resort to the desktop version sometimes but it's very seldom the mobile version is actually missing content. Besides, I think most people have no idea that "Browse desktop version" even exists.

> I also resort to the desktop version sometimes but it's very seldom the mobile version is actually missing content.

Lol. I don't remember the last time I came across an AMP page that wasn't missing content.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by Kiro »

Mindwipe wrote: post #36
Kiro wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also about UX, accessibility, readability etc which often become a mess if you browse the desktop version on mobile. I also resort to the desktop version sometimes but it's very seldom the mobile version is actually missing content. Besides, I think most people have no idea that "Browse desktop version" even exists.

> I also resort to the desktop version sometimes but it's very seldom the mobile version is actually missing content. Lol. I don't remember the last time I came across an AMP page that wasn't missing content.

Do you have any examples? I think it's a separate topic though (AMP compared to mobile sites in general).

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by Mindwipe »

Kiro wrote: post #30
Mirioron wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But AMP sites pretty much require you to get out of the AMP site to work properly. Closing a pop up is no harder than that.

I'm all for bashing AMP but I can't remember a single time I've had to get out of AMP to get it working. Do you have any examples?

Literally every page on the Guardian, as the AMP pages don't include comments?

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by the_gipsy »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #3

I have no trouble getting websites with good web performance to rank above AMP results. I like to think I have beaten them even when I'm slightly below them, because they trap their visitors in the AMP silo, while I am offering them a full site with probably better performance overall. The only reason to offer AMP is to get into the news caroussel.

Just wait until they dial up the preference for AMP.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Post by Kiro »

Mindwipe wrote: post #38
Kiro wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm all for bashing AMP but I can't remember a single time I've had to get out of AMP to get it working. Do you have any examples?

Literally every page on the Guardian, as the AMP pages don't include comments?

Thank you.
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