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A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Google intentionally gimps Firefox on Android, by serving an old-school page. Using an addon (which you can on mobile Fx, and not on Chrome), fixes this by editing the UA string when visiting Google. Getting the "nice experience", however, gives me amp links. And when I click on them, I'm unable to scroll?! It doesn't matter if it loads fast, when I cannot read beyond the fold. It also breaks the "open in app" I norm…

There is a bug report [1] that tracks Google serving a second tier search experience for Firefox for Android.

Google has been dragging their feet for years on this one, and it perfectly fits their "oopsies" pattern of behavior [2], which ends up hurting their competition.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975444

[2] https://www.computerworld.com/article/3389882/former-mozilla...

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion. I very often find myself clicking on the 'Browse desktop version' button when browsing a so-called 'mobile-friendly' version of a site. Is the look of the website really more important than the content and functionality? For me, it's not. This is just another example of a big tech monopoly imposing their highly opinionated ideas on billions of people. Als…

Not a trend, they rank AMP sites higher

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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post #7

I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion. I very often find myself clicking on the 'Browse desktop version' button when browsing a so-called 'mobile-friendly' version of a site. Is the look of the website really more important than the content and functionality? For me, it's not. This is just another example of a big tech monopoly imposing their highly opinionated ideas on billions of people. Als…

> I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion

This is an extraordinarily location-specific sentiment. In the country I'm in right now, less than 25% of the population have desktop PCs. Everyone has a smartphone, if not two. Most of the world is like this, especially the developing countries with the most future growth potential.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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I have to give it to Google for such brilliant scheme to make use the current web clutter to its advantage, but we all know the dangers of this if left unchecked.

The web doesn't need AMP to be fast, it needs common sense which has left the building once ads and tracking became the goal.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion. I very often find myself clicking on the 'Browse desktop version' button when browsing a so-called 'mobile-friendly' version of a site. Is the look of the website really more important than the content and functionality? For me, it's not. This is just another example of a big tech monopoly imposing their highly opinionated ideas on billions of people. Als…

Yet another HN user talking about their use case. 99% of people are not your typical HN user.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion. I very often find myself clicking on the 'Browse desktop version' button when browsing a so-called 'mobile-friendly' version of a site. Is the look of the website really more important than the content and functionality? For me, it's not. This is just another example of a big tech monopoly imposing their highly opinionated ideas on billions of people. Als…

> I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion This is an extraordinarily location-specific sentiment. In the country I'm in right now, less than 25% of the population have desktop PCs. Everyone has a smartphone, if not two. Most of the world is like this, especially the developing countries with the most future growth potential.

I think the parent's point is that desktop sites are often good enough even on mobile. Mobile sites, on the other hand, seem to often lack in functionality.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Talking about a crappy web technology using Medium

Just thinking that... I find medium worse than amp... at least amp doesn't show pop ups to join or subscribe...

But AMP sites pretty much require you to get out of the AMP site to work properly. Closing a pop up is no harder than that.

Re: A new AMP update shows how it can infiltrate every corner of the internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think that the mobile trend was blown way out of proportion This is an extraordinarily location-specific sentiment. In the country I'm in right now, less than 25% of the population have desktop PCs. Everyone has a smartphone, if not two. Most of the world is like this, especially the developing countries with the most future growth potential.

I think the parent's point is that desktop sites are often good enough even on mobile. Mobile sites, on the other hand, seem to often lack in functionality.

But most purely desktop sites, are in fact, not anywhere close to good on mobile.

A good test is: do you need to zoom in and then pan horizontally to be able to read the content?

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