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NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by sak5sk »

RickJWagner wrote: post #2

I live in Central Arkansas, which normally has hot summers. It looks like July was actually a little cooler for us this year. http://www.worldclimate.com/climate/us/arkansas/little-rock https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/little-rock-ar/72201/july-...

Weather is not climate. Climate change will trigger some places to be colder (at times) while overall hotter (on average). If you want to learn more, look into ocean currents, acidification and how fresh meltwater has an impact on currents / weather patterns.

Here is a good Youtube channel for reference: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtZdUYUZr493AUh_EInBYxQ

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by zmmmmm »

throwawaynoaa7 wrote: post #27

Odd. But NOAA's own data also confirms this July was the 65th coldest on record? [1] Hard to make sense of what's coming out of NOAA these days... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMldKLR0Vwc

Hmm, who shall I believe the official publication from NOAA [1] that states in the title July was the hottest month? Or a reintrepretation of their data posted on YouTube by a notorious and discredited climate denier [2].

[1] https://www.noaa.gov/news/july-2019-was-hottest-month-on-rec...

[2] https://tonyhellerakastevengoddard.com/who-is-tony-heller/

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by digitaltrees »

edejong wrote: post #43
throwaway010718 wrote: post #38

As much as I want to believe climate change can mitigated by individuals making conscientious decisions, it seems as naive as telling someone in 1970 that if they care about the smog then they can just buy a catalytic converter for their own car. Climate change progress, like the catalytic converter, will be 1% innovation and 99% legislation. If you care about this problem please vote. Voting is arguably the most imp…

No, voting is passive. Be politically active: talk to your neighbors, at your local sports club, at work and at local events on climate change. Contact your local legislators. Give options to local polluters by researching options for subsidies. Write to your congressmen and ask for the most pressing local actions. Democracy does not start with a vote. That’s just a step in a large process.

If you want to be active, I just formed a non profit to fund litigation initiatives for kids and young adults to sue the government and corporate interests that are responsible for restoring their constitutional right to a freaking future. Consider donating to fund similar litigation.

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by sak5sk »

vixen99 wrote: post #58
beders wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a link to a study that has better science in it than the IPCC report? Is there a such a study? If not, maybe, just maybe, the climate scientist are right and the ever increasing CO2 is the culprit. Maybe.

Here's one - http://www.drroyspencer.com/2019/08/july-2019-was-not-the-wa...

Roy Spenser is funded by the Marshal Foundation which is funded by Exxon. Do you really think you're going to get credible information from an energy company, one of the biggest polluters in the world? C'mon... this is HN, not Yahoo News.

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by digitaltrees »

chrdlu wrote: post #7

We can all do our part! Even though it is hard to actively contribute to fighting climate change every day, by becoming carbon neutral, we can grow a community to make a difference! The average American has a carbon footprint that can be offset with a $20 per month subscription. We need more money to flow into fighting climate change! I personally use Project Wren to offset my carbon footprint specifically through a…

Fund on going litigation to fight climate change and the damage it is and will do to our economy, free market, and future. There are several nonprofits leading this. One is youCAN. That’s youth climate action now. I am starting a non profit to expand on that idea and fund as much litigation and legislation as possible. Voting isn’t the only venue for citizens to protest and protect their rights.

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by mrhappyunhappy »

jtolmar wrote: post #69
edejong wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, voting is passive. Be politically active: talk to your neighbors, at your local sports club, at work and at local events on climate change. Contact your local legislators. Give options to local polluters by researching options for subsidies. Write to your congressmen and ask for the most pressing local actions. Democracy does not start with a vote. That’s just a step in a large process.

Voting is the victory lap. Organize.

Any ideas for organizing at scale?

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by mrhappyunhappy »

sanxiyn wrote: post #51
throwaway010718 wrote: post #38

As much as I want to believe climate change can mitigated by individuals making conscientious decisions, it seems as naive as telling someone in 1970 that if they care about the smog then they can just buy a catalytic converter for their own car. Climate change progress, like the catalytic converter, will be 1% innovation and 99% legislation. If you care about this problem please vote. Voting is arguably the most imp…

Montreal Protocol was a success. We already have a legislative framework, starting with Kyoto Protocol. What is needed is technical alternatives that made Montreal Protocol a success, i.e. innovation.

Innovation takes time. We have little time.

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by mrhappyunhappy »

digitaltrees wrote: post #75
chrdlu wrote: post #7

We can all do our part! Even though it is hard to actively contribute to fighting climate change every day, by becoming carbon neutral, we can grow a community to make a difference! The average American has a carbon footprint that can be offset with a $20 per month subscription. We need more money to flow into fighting climate change! I personally use Project Wren to offset my carbon footprint specifically through a…

Fund on going litigation to fight climate change and the damage it is and will do to our economy, free market, and future. There are several nonprofits leading this. One is youCAN. That’s youth climate action now. I am starting a non profit to expand on that idea and fund as much litigation and legislation as possible. Voting isn’t the only venue for citizens to protest and protect their rights.

More info? What’s your role in it?

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by Paradigma11 »

abootstrapper wrote: post #65
js8 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your claim is that it is bipartisan ideologically, not procedurally, right? But I don't think that Republicans actually follow their own ideology of minimal state. Anyway, I think the bill is a good idea (not an American).

I'm not sure what you mean by "procedurally." Republicans can still vote in favor of this bill even if they do not cosponsor it. But the more Republicans cosponsor it the easier it will be politically for other Republicans to vote in favor of it.

What would a partisan bill look like?

Is the other party not allowed to vote for one such bill?

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