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NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

RickJWagner wrote: post #2

I live in Central Arkansas, which normally has hot summers. It looks like July was actually a little cooler for us this year. http://www.worldclimate.com/climate/us/arkansas/little-rock https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/little-rock-ar/72201/july-...

These sorts of comments show just how hard understanding complex systems is.

We have to make it easy to grasp so we come up with things like “Global warming” or “climate change” for the general public. Which maybe indicates that the change is in a particular direction.

But the climate is a system that can be influenced by many factors. I think what you should be worried about is repeated unseasonal weather. Too cool may be just as bad as too hot.

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by numakerg »

teslabox wrote: post #10

July is hotter than January, even though the planet is closer to the sun in January, because there is more land in the northern hemisphere than the Southern Hemisphere. There was a submission ~3 months ago regarding this phenomenon: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20012565 I’m certain there’s a submarine agenda behind most of these “hottest month EVAR” stories. /methinks it’d be much more productive to focus on…

What point are you trying to make?

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by numakerg »

chrdlu wrote: post #7

We can all do our part! Even though it is hard to actively contribute to fighting climate change every day, by becoming carbon neutral, we can grow a community to make a difference! The average American has a carbon footprint that can be offset with a $20 per month subscription. We need more money to flow into fighting climate change! I personally use Project Wren to offset my carbon footprint specifically through a…

Does ESO own any stock in this company?

>The average American has a carbon footprint that can be offset with a $20 per month subscription

You have a source on that?

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by elchief »

numakerg wrote: post #12
teslabox wrote: post #10

July is hotter than January, even though the planet is closer to the sun in January, because there is more land in the northern hemisphere than the Southern Hemisphere. There was a submission ~3 months ago regarding this phenomenon: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20012565 I’m certain there’s a submarine agenda behind most of these “hottest month EVAR” stories. /methinks it’d be much more productive to focus on…

What point are you trying to make?

He thinks we only started recording temperatures in January, I guess

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by abootstrapper »

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Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by beders »

teslabox wrote: post #10

July is hotter than January, even though the planet is closer to the sun in January, because there is more land in the northern hemisphere than the Southern Hemisphere. There was a submission ~3 months ago regarding this phenomenon: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20012565 I’m certain there’s a submarine agenda behind most of these “hottest month EVAR” stories. /methinks it’d be much more productive to focus on…

Do you have a link to a study that has better science in it than the IPCC report? Is there a such a study?

If not, maybe, just maybe, the climate scientist are right and the ever increasing CO2 is the culprit. Maybe.

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by tunesmith »

numakerg wrote: post #14
chrdlu wrote: post #7

We can all do our part! Even though it is hard to actively contribute to fighting climate change every day, by becoming carbon neutral, we can grow a community to make a difference! The average American has a carbon footprint that can be offset with a $20 per month subscription. We need more money to flow into fighting climate change! I personally use Project Wren to offset my carbon footprint specifically through a…

Does ESO own any stock in this company? >The average American has a carbon footprint that can be offset with a $20 per month subscription You have a source on that?

The average American has a 20-ton / year carbon footprint. Offsetting 20 tons per year has a cost that ranges depending on what service you use. I've seen estimates of $6-10/ton - $20/month is $12/ton.

Edit: for the average american footprint, you can easily find the stat that the US emitted 5.268 GtCO2 in 2018. There are 327.16 million people in the US. From that I get more like 16 tons/year per person, so 20 is out of date. Of course, we have to get to zero with sequestration on top of that.

Re: NOAA Data Confirms July Was Hottest Month Ever Recorded

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Post by rtpg »

tunesmith wrote: post #19
numakerg wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does ESO own any stock in this company? >The average American has a carbon footprint that can be offset with a $20 per month subscription You have a source on that?

The average American has a 20-ton / year carbon footprint. Offsetting 20 tons per year has a cost that ranges depending on what service you use. I've seen estimates of $6-10/ton - $20/month is $12/ton. Edit: for the average american footprint, you can easily find the stat that the US emitted 5.268 GtCO2 in 2018. There are 327.16 million people in the US. From that I get more like 16 tons/year per person, so 20 is out…

If we were thinking big picture, would this mean that the US gov't could basically spend $72 billion a year to zero out the carbon contribution of America?

Cheaper than the Iraq war....

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