A Walk in Hong Kong

Post by idlewords » Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 3:03 PM UTC

unityByFreedom wrote: post #46

hrktb wrote: post #26

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Fundamentally it is not what western media think as “news”. It is long, ultra detailed, first person, and doesn’t cover the central point covered by other news outlets. If a NYT editor was reading this it would cut it down to a fifth of what it is, have it reexplain the 5 demands, give a clearer political positioning etc. We had that with french protests, standard news covering was cut so it was very digestible and n…

> If a NYT editor was reading this it would cut it down to a fifth of what it is, have it reexplain the 5 demands, give a clearer political positioning etc. The word "extradition", a key piece of information about current HK-China relations, does not appear in this blog. Let's not pretend it is deeper than something produced by a reputable newspaper. A newspaper can put out long form like this, or just straight news.…

Post by grotsnot » Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 3:05 PM UTC

empath75 wrote: post #158

xkgt wrote: post #109

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//Basically what they sad is that western culture in Hong Kong clashes with the Chinese culture. This is exactly a regurgitation of the propaganda by CCP. They blamed western influence, education and cultural whitewashing of HK Chinese as the reason for the current protests and their citizens believe it sincerely. They conveniently overlook the crux of the protest, which is to ask for universal suffrage. Even for a w…

After the 2016 election I almost feel the same about letting the public vote.

Post by bouncycastle » Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 3:11 PM UTC

tombh wrote: post #195

bouncycastle wrote: post #180

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Hong Kong and the greater area around it has its own identify as well. That is, they are mainly Cantonese Chinese, a sub-culture, complete with their own dialect and variation of the writing system, plus their own takes on Chinese culture. Especially in Hong Kong where it's been better preserved because they skipped the Cultural Revolution and other influences from the CCP, taking the good parts from the British inst…

I'm troubled to disagree with your comment, because I usually get so little feedback to such opinions and also it makes it look like I'm CCP stooge. So I should add that I'm British, I just lived in China for a year. Your comment really worries me though, because it seems to me you're conflating the subculture of Guangdong with the culture of Honk Kong, perhaps in an attempt to make a tenuous argument that it is in f…

Post by icebraining » Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 3:15 PM UTC

roboys wrote: post #187

spyckie2 wrote: post #19

This piece is quite accurate - it really makes you feel like you're in Hong Kong during the protests. References aside, as a US citizen in Hong Kong there are some things that I respect immensely and some things that really get on my nerves about HK. I greatly respect the people and the cause. It reminds me of that one poem - > Do not go gentle into that good night. > Rage, rage against the dying of the light. The pe…

Am I the only person that believes international crime will see a significant drop if China controls HK? I'm actually glad this glorified money laundering/financial crime haven is being shut down. The sooner China gets extradition powers, the sooner we can close the criminal enterprises operating in/through HK for the past 1-2 centuries. Running drugs/drug money through HK is something that has been going on for a ve…

Post by tombh » Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 3:22 PM UTC

FooBarWidget wrote: post #230

tombh wrote: post #197

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Yes, so I think you're supporting my point right? Of course HK would be a haven for anti-CCP refugees and in in the last few decades that has come to be an important part of HK's identity. But that doesn't change the facts surrounding the inception of HK as merely a British-held asset to ensure the continued extraction of financial wealth from an Opium-addicted mainland China. Of course I'm not trying to justify the…

I'm from Guangdong. I find it refreshing to see a comment such as yours, that states that you want to look beyond stereotypes and into deeper truths (including historical backgrounds). Like you, I'm also baffled why so few people are uninterested in going beyond stereotypes, and I would also like to know more about the whole thing. Not sure whether I personally have any insights to give you, but I've found that Quora…